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    From Ogg@21:3/110.10 to All on Sat Apr 20 08:40:00 2024
    Anyone here have techinal insights and experience about fibre
    installations?

    I was scheduled to have a fibre installation the other day.
    First, the tech was given the wrong address. After that was
    rectified, he told me that he was told that my building "didn't
    qualify", even though we could see spare loops of fibre cable
    on some nearby poles, *and* there were even two spare ports on
    the terminal. My neighbor had a fibre feed to his building, no
    problem.

    When I asked what "didn't qualify" meant, all he could tell me
    was that first there wasn't any "assignment" for my address -
    which was later corrected - but something else is behind the
    "didn't qualify". As a tech installer, he had no idea what is
    behind those classifications. With two spare "unassigned"
    ports, that seemed strange to the tech. He was simply told
    that they weren't available to use.

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  • From Martin Kazmaier@21:2/148 to Ogg on Sat Apr 20 20:10:00 2024

    Anyone here have techinal insights and experience about fibre installations?

    I was scheduled to have a fibre installation the other day. First,
    the tech was given the wrong address. After that was rectified,
    he told me that he was told that my building "didn't qualify",
    even though we could see spare loops of fibre cable on some nearby poles, *and* there were even two spare ports on the terminal.
    My neighbor had a fibre feed to his building, no problem.

    I had a similar experience, but I live in a County owned apartment building that would have to pay to add the capability for fiber. I was able to
    increase from DSL 100/10 to 200/30, though, which was a nice change and
    doesn't cost much more (though it does cost more than fiber would).

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  • From SirRonmit@21:2/120 to Ogg on Sun Apr 21 08:41:55 2024
    You need to move to my street. I just had a 3rd fiber/fibre company install through my yard. :(
    I dropped cable and phone 2 seasons ago for fiber and haven't gone back.
    It took many techs and "setups" for them to actually get it installed. They (the company) paid for the installation as I was the 1st on my street to get fiber (this was the 1st install company.) We had so many issues, that they also gave me a $100 gift card - which was actually $200 when it arrived, so that was nice!

    Not sure where you live (sounds like a non-US country?) But all I can suggest is ask around - each tech is different on their knowledge level. Most of them may not know the "Big Picture" or even care to know as all they do is install. The GOOD tech may know and explain.

    When I had cable and was forced to upgrade to the new Digital Only format, my DVR just refused to work no matter what I did. The company sent out 5 different techs and they all wanted to drill new holes into my home saying they cable needed to be replaced, replaced the line from the junction box to my home, etc.etc.etc.etc. The 5th tech showed up and I told him what the DVR was doing and he said, "oh, let me replace the DVR, we learned about that in class that some fail to obtain the proper firmware and need to be sent back." .. Then, my DVR worked great for 5 or so years before I switched to fiber.

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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Martin Kazmaier on Sun Apr 21 10:35:00 2024
    Hello Martin Kazmaier!

    ** On Saturday 20.04.24 - 20:10, Martin Kazmaier wrote to Ogg:

    I had a similar experience, but I live in a County owned apartment building that would have to pay to add the capability for fiber. I was able to increase from DSL 100/10 to 200/30, though, which was a nice change and doesn't cost much more (though it does cost more than fiber would).

    It's simply not right that DSL should cost more. My current DSL
    is throttled to 5Mbps - somebody claimed that "the copper is
    too old" for anything faster. And I'm paying far more what
    other people are at the same price. My neighbors can get
    substantially faster DSL speeds than me - although they
    subscribe to the head honcho company itself: Bell Canada. I was
    using a 3rd-party competitor in 2009: Acanac. Meanwhile,
    around 2011-12, Bell Canada absorbed Acanac, yet Acanac can
    still offer "competitive" prices. Dunno how that relationship
    works.

    Meanwhile the fibre install is stalled. Not sure what they are
    doing to resolve the matter. But I recently got an email
    thanking me for purchasing the fibre installation that I don't
    have!

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  • From Len@21:2/148 to Ogg on Sun Apr 21 18:13:00 2024
    I've enjoyed fiber, but the technology is probably the most fragile out of
    all forms of broadband I've had. I've had vines grow into the splice
    enclosure and degrade or cut off my service. Other than that it's good. They ran the line through a conduit and drilled a hole through one of the walls
    and installed a service box. Very simple.

    I used to live out in a much more rural area but had DSL at 100mbps thanks to being right super close to a CO. Like someone else had mentioned, I still see broadband services that provide less speed charging as much as the fiber I
    have currently.


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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Len on Sun Apr 21 21:57:00 2024
    Hello Len!

    ** On Sunday 21.04.24 - 18:13, Len wrote to Ogg:

    I've enjoyed fiber, but the technology is probably the most
    fragile out of all forms of broadband I've had. I've had
    vines grow into the splice enclosure and degrade or cut off
    my service. Other than that it's good. They ran the line
    through a conduit and drilled a hole through one of the
    walls and installed a service box. Very simple.

    I can see were a conduit would be a smart thing for most
    installations. The ones I see nearby are just the plain cable
    (a somewhat flat design, btw) and just loops a few times to
    make necessary right angle turns.


    I used to live out in a much more rural area but had DSL at
    100mbps thanks to being right super close to a CO. Like
    someone else had mentioned, I still see broadband services
    that provide less speed charging as much as the fiber I
    have currently.

    My DSL is only a few hundred meters from the CO! But the
    highly-paid operators in there tell me that the copper feeding
    my building is at fault, somehow. Apparently they monitor some
    kind of graph that displays drop-outs when a particular line is
    adjusted for a certain speed. For anything higher than 5Mbps
    they said there were "too many drop outs" - that's when the
    connections keeps retrying and retrying. So, they throttled my
    DSL at 5Mbps even though I am paying for atleast 25Mbps.

    Most of my neighbors on the street report much better DSL
    speeds.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Len on Mon Apr 22 19:59:55 2024
    On 21 Apr 2024 at 06:13p, Len pondered and said...

    I've enjoyed fiber, but the technology is probably the most fragile out
    of all forms of broadband I've had. I've had vines grow into the splice

    here in New Zealand our Fiber roll out has been good, there are four companies that handle the connection of the fiber to the property, so from your street poles into your house and terminating the fiber at an ONT.

    Then as a customer you have the choice of a number of ISP who provide the actual service (and plan with associated speeds, prices etc.) that you deal with thereafter.

    Moving from DSL to fiber has been great and I now have speeds of around 500 up and 900 down

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  • From ogg@21:2/147 to Avon on Mon Apr 22 09:03:01 2024
    here in New Zealand our Fiber roll out has been good, there are four compan

    that handle the connection of the fiber to the property, so from your stree

    poles into your house and terminating the fiber at an ONT.

    Then as a customer you have the choice of a number of ISP who provide the actual service (and plan with associated speeds, prices etc.) that you deal

    with thereafter.

    Moving from DSL to fiber has been great and I now have speeds of around 500

    and 900 down

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going

    avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

    I've been on Fiber for about 1 year. The company buried everything along
    the roads for the neighborhood and let us know when they were ready for customers. Once I signed up, they came and ran the individual cable from the box in the front yard into the house. They made sure that the old existing copper cable was removed. That made sure it wasn't a simple thing to revert back to the old ISP!

    I'm supposed to have up to 1 gig speeds both ways. I've only been able to verify that with the "speed test" web sites. However, I'm certainly happy
    with what I have.

    ogg
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  • From Len@21:2/148 to Ogg on Mon Apr 22 20:04:00 2024
    I bet they put a load coil right on NID. Might want to check it out...

    That's a phone gag -don't go looking. Unless they did -the jerks. 20 years
    ago I couldn't get DSL in the boonies because they used too many load coils.


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  • From n2qfd@21:1/154 to Ogg on Tue Apr 30 17:46:42 2024
    Anyone here have techinal insights and experience about fibre installations?

    Funny, it wasn't the home installation but 3rd and 4th party crews installing the fiber along the country highways that was the problem here. I was working for Tompkins County Highway and the Village of Newfield was getting braodband. It was ugly, like anything that got in the way of the company would end up as a pitchforks and torches sort of event led against the Facebook pages of the Town Officials. So, we had just resurfaced MILES of road in the town and these guys were knifing in the fiber conduits. They had a crawler with a blade and a spindle like a farmer lays in drain tile and were destroying the road surface and the ditch-line at the same time. We hit them with a $20k fine and cease and deists order. They hadn't even filed for work permits in the right of way! Next thing I know I'm told to wave all permitting fees and just make periodic checks on them. They got into it with a County Legislator who were sort of our bosses and once again we were toothless to stop public roadways from being needlessly destroyed. The vaults were all cattywumpus, many full of water. It was just so much bad work that the "owners" were absolved from because it was contractors working for contractors at the ground level.

    That's all I've got thus far for fiber. Here we've had a virtual monopoly situation with Time Warner not Spectrum being the only cable provider and thus your only option for high speed internet. There's been fiber roll out for the last 5 years but they have been just doing arterial and not so much lateral build-out. They focused on downtown, business, industry, hospital and are just starting to come around the side streets.

    I'm in the southern tier of NY so can't say what's doing elsewhere.

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