I guess the important part is to keep good backups and preferably decent meta data.

And then some form of copies that are controlled by someone else, lest
our unfortunate demises lead to unfortunate data loss.

Well.. true admins don't do backups I heard back in the 90s :) fortunately some did!

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Well.. true admins don't do backups I heard back in the 90s :) fortunately

Chuckle.. I used to do backups until the tape drive decided it had had enough and would persistantly unspool tapes. After that all bets were off. I had to many drives with to much data to back up effectively.

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Chuckle.. I used to do backups until the tape drive decided it had had enough and would persistantly unspool tapes. After that all bets were
off. I had to many drives with to much data to back up effectively.

I remember when I used to make backups onto CD-Rs or DVD-Rs. And probably still have some of them stashed away at my brother's place.

But now, the idea of backing things up 4GB at a time is... horrifying, even if that's plenty for certain subsets of data.

But I went to using external drives a long while ago. And then do things like leave one at my brother's place or mom's place.

Bit harder when I don't see them very often. So, at this point it's a backup to my only-available-on-the-local-network media server, and a shared folder that syncs between my laptop and desktop. The former being for dealing with stupid April errors (meaning I delete something I shouldn't have), and the latter being both for convenience and so that data loss is minimal if I lose a hard drive.

None of these things help in the case of a fire that destroys everything, though, but I think that's half the reason I keep using Google Photos.

That said, I should probably back up my BBS again, but in the sense of getting a not-on-the-server backup.

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off. I had to many drives with to much data to back up effectively.

I remember when I used to make backups onto CD-Rs or DVD-Rs. And probably still have some of them stashed away at my brother's place.

Back then it was a weird setup of 4x286 networked each sharing its two
drives. So after the tape drive fritzed there was nowhere for a backup. While one of those had a CD in it, I'm pretty sure there was never a burner that I had DOS drivers/software for, or sufficient space anywhere to create the
image that would've needed to be assembled for burning.

In this day and age, I just make copies of the VMs.. usually to the NAS some times a USB HD..

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burner that I had DOS drivers/software for, or sufficient space anywhere to create the image that would've needed to be assembled for burning.

I imagine, in that era, your choices were tape drives or a large handful of disks.

Though when the drives were 120MB or something, 1.44MB went a bit further. And Zip disks a bit further, though I don't recall what people chose for backups, if they had backups at all.

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I imagine, in that era, your choices were tape drives or a large handful of disks.

Most of the drives were only 40, 60, 80s with a 120 and I can't recall what else now... it came out to ~5-600Mb at the time... even the tape was getting light on by that stage, it was only a 40 as well. I think as a serious backup medium floppies were shot after ~40Mb turns into a lot of floppies really quickly after that.

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Most of the drives were only 40, 60, 80s with a 120 and I can't recall what else now... it came out to ~5-600Mb at the time... even the tape
was getting light on by that stage, it was only a 40 as well. I think
as a serious backup medium floppies were shot after ~40Mb turns into a
lot of floppies really quickly after that.

SCSI DDS tape drives were the way to go - we used them at work and
recycled tapes, so I could bring home old bulk-erased tapes. They'd
store 2gb and later 4GB, and with compression could go above that.

SCSI was a lot faster than the floppy interface. I always wondered why
ATA tape drives didn't become a thing - most ATA motherboards could
support 4 devices and most people had 2 (primary hard drive and an
optical drive)



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SCSI DDS tape drives were the way to go - we used them at work and recycled tapes, so I could bring home old bulk-erased tapes. They'd
store 2gb and later 4GB, and with compression could go above that.

SCSI was hiddeously expensive and hard to find here. DDS and DAT tapes were certainly spacious enough though. Mostly the Mac guys had SCSI stuff, it was the only interface on your Mac of the time.

PC's here were still mostly MFM or IDE...

SCSI was a lot faster than the floppy interface. I always wondered why
ATA tape drives didn't become a thing - most ATA motherboards could support 4 devices and most people had 2 (primary hard drive and an

That also was later... on the type of setup I was using you only had 2 drive ISA interface cards. Not to many of them were even configurable, you just
used the two ports it gave you. You've got me wondering now if I ever saw ATA tape storage though...nope even the 350s are still floppy..

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Pointers?

Yep, it takes something unique to retain visits I guess :P.

You have gotten my attention, sir! :)

Thank you for your visit and message :). This is what we do it for!

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