Warpslide wrote to esc <=-

I thought part of being a sysop was being sadomasochistic enjoying the pain and suffering of trying to get everything to work. At least
that's how it was for me trying to get Telegard talking to FastEcho, AllFix & FrontDoor back in the day.

Oh, but when it all works -- glorious!

Then, it's time to switch platforms. :)




... And then you typed 'G=C800:5', right?
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Thats the thing, I haven't found anything. I've found how to set
yourself up to an existing network, but not how you make a new one.

Yeah, I assume these details are in some older fidonet specs or something and aren't as common knowledge.

Then again, if that was common knowledge, we'd have everyone making
their own 'nets and abandoning them.

Ha, we already kind-of have this problem :P

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Thats the thing, I haven't found anything. I've found how to set yourself up to an existing network, but not how you make a new one.

Setting up a network is simple. Find a free zone and set yourself up as ZC and or node and set that up in your mailer/tosser.

Add other nodes to connect with as they wish.

The setup is not difficult. Maintaining a network could be. You'll also need a nodelist. If your nodelist gets complex use makenl.

Then again, if that was common knowledge, we'd have everyone making their own 'nets and abandoning them.

I don't think there is much point in creating a net today, aside from the exercise.

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
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BY: Al(21:4/106)

I don't think there is much point in creating a net today, aside from
the exercise.

QWK based networks seem more doable.


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I don't think there is much point in creating a net today, aside from
the exercise.

QWK based networks seem more doable.

More doable?

QWK networks are easier for the network admin. Nodes poll when they choose and come and go as they please. There is nothing for the network admin to do once setup but to make sure his node/hub is connectable.

FTN is more widely supported but can be a lot of work for the hubs to keep the nodelist up to date and weed out nodes that just vanish and also adding new node who want in.

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
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Oh, but when it all works -- glorious!

Then, it's time to switch platforms. :)

Hehe, I used to think something like that... messed around with a variety of QuickBBS clones... in the end I became satisfied with what I stuck with.. the bleeding edge became more of a hassle the more complicated the setup got.

Spec


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On 26 Jul 2022 at 08:05p, Vk3jed pondered and said...

Back from another burnout phase that was induced by Mystic problems on
the FTN hub. which have since been fixed. Toom me another several weeks to get myself ready to partake in the BBSs again. :)

I've also been sidetracked by some major ham radio projects, but along
the way I have gained a lot of Docker knowledge. :)

welcome back Tony, I know this feeling also.

Been busy support parents with illnesses so a bit time poor but dipping in/out of BBS when time permits and keeping my time on BBS fun for me.

Glad you got some docker time. I confess I was quite taken with it when I played with it. I feel like I need to start over with a new HDD for all my linux stuff as bits were not working as I wanted and permissions kept foxing me... but for now I am leaving it all well alone :) less stress :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 26 Jul 2022 at 01:16p, Alpha pondered and said...

ay think, because I *can* feel my energy and enthusiasm rising day by
day when it comes to BBSing. And I know what it's like to lose interest when things get overwhelming, whether it's BBS related... or
life-related. Ugh.

I hear you on both counts :)

First up: a new board I'm hand-crafting around all thing 'retro' using retro systems. Well, older things anyway. A DOS-based BBS (Renegade!). It's been fun getting all the parts to work w/DOS -- telnet server, mailer, tosser, events, etc.

Nice :) I started with Renegade and also have pondered trying to get something running but I should spent more time on Agency first... time?? what's that :)

Also, I have a small, niche FTN I've been protoyping since last year.
And of course gOLD mINE still needs love.

Anyway, welcome back ya'll and see you around the bbsverse!

You too, nice to see you active Robbie... best regards to you and yours.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
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On 28 Jul 2022 at 01:27p, Al pondered and said...

FTN is more widely supported but can be a lot of work for the hubs to
keep the nodelist up to date and weed out nodes that just vanish and
also adding new node who want in.

These words ring true to me... it's a mix of nodes that vanish or nodes that have issues and the HUB can't connect to them (IP block in place etc. etc.) that can be a PITA from my POV :)

Oh and hi Al :) Long time no chat... hope you're well and not too hot in Canada right now.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
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These words ring true to me... it's a mix of nodes that vanish or nodes that have issues and the HUB can't connect to them (IP block in place etc. etc.) that can be a PITA from my POV :)

Yes, there is a node in net 153 that seems to have vanished, but I don't think he's vanished, I suspect a technical issue. I'll try to figure that out. :)

Oh and hi Al :)

Hi! :)

Long time no chat... hope you're well and not too hot in Canada right now.

It's a little warm right now. We're expecting 35-37 C over the next few days. It's supposed to cool off to 27C next week with a little rain so I'm looking forward to that. :)

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

I don't think there is much point in creating a net today, aside from the exercise.

QWK based networks seem more doable.

Mostly for the exercise, but also a "proof of concept" of a private network of BBS's.

I looked at QWK, it is easy, but I didn't see support for an SSL connection.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
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On 07-29-22 14:54, Avon wrote to Vk3jed <=-

On 26 Jul 2022 at 08:05p, Vk3jed pondered and said...

Back from another burnout phase that was induced by Mystic problems on
the FTN hub. which have since been fixed. Toom me another several weeks to get myself ready to partake in the BBSs again. :)

I've also been sidetracked by some major ham radio projects, but along
the way I have gained a lot of Docker knowledge. :)

welcome back Tony, I know this feeling also.

Yeah, too many things going on. :)

Been busy support parents with illnesses so a bit time poor but dipping in/out of BBS when time permits and keeping my time on BBS fun for me.

Got a house move coming up soon, and financial uncertainty. It's a race against time to head that one off. :/

Glad you got some docker time. I confess I was quite taken with it when
I played with it. I feel like I need to start over with a new HDD for
all my linux stuff as bits were not working as I wanted and permissions kept foxing me... but for now I am leaving it all well alone :) less stress :)

Yeah Docker certainly grows on you. It's an easier way to manage server infrastructure, and already it's proven easier for disaster recovery, after I trashed the host OS. Recovering was dead simple. :)


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On 07-28-22 13:27, Al wrote to Utopian Galt <=-

QWK networks are easier for the network admin. Nodes poll when they
choose and come and go as they please. There is nothing for the network admin to do once setup but to make sure his node/hub is connectable.

FTN is more widely supported but can be a lot of work for the hubs to
keep the nodelist up to date and weed out nodes that just vanish and
also adding new node who want in.

That's a pretty good summary, well worth keeping around. :)


... I am what I am - and that's not bad!
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ay think, because I *can* feel my energy and enthusiasm rising day by
day when it comes to BBSing. And I know what it's like to lose
interest when
things get overwhelming, whether it's BBS related... or life-related.

Oh, that message came in garbled.
Using GEcho 1.20 and Renegade.
Any idea what happened?


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--- Talisman v0.43-dev (Linux/x86_64)
* Origin: You are in Error, fsxNet. No one is screaming. (21:4/158.1)

Interesting. Perhaps I should give this a shot. So in other words, the
BBS that's actually listening and calling out for mail, occupying port
24554 or whatever it is, is a "shadow" instance that actually
communicates with the real BBSes behind the scenes. Is that a correct understanding?

That's correct! The hub/boss BBS uses your main node credentials to slurp
up the network(s), and then you'd have additional Echomail Nodes for each
of your downlinks, e.g. for my point: 21/4:158.1 for BBS 1, 21:4/158.2
for BBS 2, etc. Then you'd just add those nodes to the "Export To..."
fields for each echo area in the Message Base Area.

Some other details, but that's the gist!

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--- Talisman v0.43-dev (Linux/x86_64)
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That's correct! The hub/boss BBS uses your main node credentials to slurp up the network(s), and then you'd have additional Echomail Nodes for each of your downlinks, e.g. for my point: 21/4:158.1 for BBS 1, 21:4/158.2
for BBS 2, etc. Then you'd just add those nodes to the "Export To..." fields for each echo area in the Message Base Area.

Sweet! I'm going to give this w a whirl. Thanks!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/11 (Linux/64)
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