• no relative of mine

    From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Albert Einstein on Wed Nov 4 22:18:03 2026
    Hey Albert!

    <Esc>:read !TZ=Canada/Pacific date
    Wed Nov 4 15:20:07 MST 2026

    Very sad. This is what happens when you let politicians decide what time it is.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    o- o- o- o- o- o- o- -o o- -o o- -o
    /) /) /) /) /) /) /) (\ /) (\ /) (\
    ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
    ... Druncen beorg þe ond dollic word.
    Guard against drunkenness and foolish words.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.3.20(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Maurice Kinal on Thu Nov 5 00:00:56 2026
    Hi Maurice,

    On 2026-11-04 22:18:03, you wrote to Albert Einstein:

    @MSGID: 1:153/7001 b0471470
    @CHRS: UTF-8 4
    Hey Albert!

    <Esc>:read !TZ=Canada/Pacific date
    Wed Nov 4 15:20:07 MST 2026

    Very sad. This is what happens when you let politicians decide what time it
    is.

    I notice you are in the (fidonet) politics of time yourself, by choosing not having a TZUTC kludge present in your message! ;-)


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.3.4.1-B20260520
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed Nov 4 18:31:00 2026
    Hello Wilfred!

    ** On Thursday 05.11.26 - 00:00, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Maurice Kinal:

    @MSGID: 1:153/7001 b0471470
    @CHRS: UTF-8 4
    Hey Albert!

    Very sad. This is what happens when you let politicians decide what
    time it is.

    I notice you are in the (fidonet) politics of time yourself, by choosing not having a TZUTC kludge present in your message! ;-)

    I have one:

    EMP: /FIDO/TUXPOWER
    ABS: Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001
    BET: no relative of mine
    ROT: 2:221/1!153/7001 757 280/464 221/1
    MID: 1:153/7001 b0471470
    EDA: 20261104221800W+0 <===== OpenXP's way to report TZUTC
    LEN: 562
    MAILER: GNU bash, version 5.3.20(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.64
    * Origin: Got Mobile? This echo = https://t.me/+RLI5gLJrHo6IIuzL (2:221/1.58)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Nov 5 00:29:20 2026
    Hey Wilfred!

    I notice you are in the (fidonet) politics of time yourself,

    Used to be. I haven't brought it up in ages now that I am back to being a regular nodelisted sysop.

    by choosing not having a TZUTC kludge present in your message! ;-)

    Do no harm. The TZUTC kludge has a corrupted offset for UTC. How about a TZ kludge instead? As shown it deploys thee official ***STANDARD*** offset for UTC rather than a bogus one.

    As far as the localtime issue in this part of the world I also choose not to give it any regard. What for?

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    o- -o -o -o o- -o o- o- -o -o -o o-
    /) (\ (\ (\ /) (\ /) /) (\ (\ (\ /)
    ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
    ... Ne byð þæt fele freond, se þe oþrum facn heleð.
    He who harbours treachery against another is not a faithful friend.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.3.20(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Thu Nov 5 09:59:20 2026
    Hi August,

    On 2026-11-04 18:31:00, you wrote to me:

    @MSGID: 2:221/1.58@fidonet 32191c03
    @REPLY: 2:280/464 6aebba7b
    @PID: OpenXP/5.0.64 (Win32)
    @CHRS: ASCII 1
    @TZUTC: -0500

    I notice you are in the (fidonet) politics of time yourself, by
    choosing
    not having a TZUTC kludge present in your message! ;-)

    I have one:

    EMP: /FIDO/TUXPOWER
    ABS: Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001
    BET: no relative of mine
    ROT: 2:221/1!153/7001 757 280/464 221/1
    MID: 1:153/7001 b0471470
    EDA: 20261104221800W+0 <===== OpenXP's way to report TZUTC
    LEN: 562
    MAILER: GNU bash, version 5.3.20(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)

    Yes, see above...


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.3.4.1-B20260520
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Maurice Kinal on Thu Nov 5 10:06:46 2026
    Hi Maurice,

    On 2026-11-05 00:29:20, you wrote to me:

    @TZ: +0000

    I notice you are in the (fidonet) politics of time yourself,

    Used to be. I haven't brought it up in ages now that I am back to being a regular nodelisted sysop.

    by choosing not having a TZUTC kludge present in your message! ;-)

    Do no harm. The TZUTC kludge has a corrupted offset for UTC. How about a TZ
    kludge instead? As shown it deploys thee official ***STANDARD*** offset for
    UTC rather than a bogus one.

    Ah, politics again! ;-)

    As far as the localtime issue in this part of the world I also choose
    not to give it any regard. What for?

    To interface on the same time with the others arround you in your local community?


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.3.4.1-B20260520
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Nov 5 13:29:16 2026
    Hey Wilfred!

    Ah, politics again! ;-)

    I have no plans to run with it.

    To interface on the same time with the others arround you in your
    local community?

    So far not an issue, even with ones getting it 'wrong' which are many since Nov. 1, 2026. All my interfaces are on UTC except the clock on the wall which I didn't bother turning back on the first, which makes it 'right' despite it being more wrong than PST (Pacific Standard Time) would have been. Now the wall clock is an hour and 11-ish minutes from the sun instead of only 11-ish minutes it would be if we had stuck with PST.

    I haven't had any complaints from the locals about the wireless hotspots which are flying UTC.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    -o -o o- o- o- o- -o -o o- -o o- o-
    (\ (\ /) /) /) /) (\ (\ /) (\ /) /)
    ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
    ... Meotud ana wat hwær se cwealm cymeþ, þe heonon of cyþþe gewiteþ.
    Only God knows where plague goes when it departs from a place.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.3.20(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Maurice Kinal on Thu Nov 5 15:09:55 2026
    Hi Maurice,

    On 2026-11-05 13:29:16, you wrote to me:

    To interface on the same time with the others arround you in your
    local community?

    So far not an issue, even with ones getting it 'wrong' which are many since
    Nov. 1, 2026. All my interfaces are on UTC except the clock on the wall which
    I didn't bother turning back on the first, which makes it 'right' despite it
    being more wrong than PST (Pacific Standard Time) would have been. Now the
    wall clock is an hour and 11-ish minutes from the sun instead of only 11-ish
    minutes it would be if we had stuck with PST.

    I haven't had any complaints from the locals about the wireless hotspots which
    are flying UTC.

    As long as you and the locals are happy with it! ;-)


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.3.4.1-B20260520
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Nov 5 14:19:30 2026
    Hey Wilfred!

    As long as you and the locals are happy with it! ;-)

    We couldn't be happier. :-)

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    -o o- -o o- -o o- -o -o -o o- -o -o
    (\ /) (\ /) (\ /) (\ (\ (\ /) (\ (\
    ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
    ... Hafa a soð to syge, þonne þu secge hwæt.
    Always have truth as your goal, whatever you say.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.3.20(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)