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    From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Gene Autry on Mon Aug 11 20:11:13 2025
    Hej Gene!

    <Esc>:read /proc/version
    Linux version 6.15.9 (root@offgrid) (gcc (GCC) 15.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.45) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon Aug 11 06:37:39 UTC 2025

    Just over four and a half hours for this machine. Now let us see whether or not fidonetting still works. I see four penguins below that seem to think it is working.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    -o o- o- o-
    (\ /) /) /)
    ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
    ... Wene þec þy betran, efn elne þis a þenden þu lifge.
    Train yourself for the better way, ever with courage as long as you live. --- GNU bash, version 5.3.3(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint @ (2:280/464.113)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Maurice Kinal on Mon Aug 11 20:20:42 2025
    Hey Maurice!

    I see four penguins below that seem to think it is working.

    Four here as well, but it looks like your penguins are a tad faster. Counting the 2 x 16 penguins in reserve, that makes 40 penguins total dedicated to our pleasure.

    Дуже груви,
    Maurice

    o- o- -o o-
    /) /) (\ /)
    ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
    ... Ne læt þu no unlofod þæt þu swytele ongite þæt licwyrðe sie.
    Do not leave unpraised anything you know well to be worthy.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.3.3(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Maurice Kinal on Mon Aug 11 20:35:28 2025
    Hej Maurice!

    that makes 40 penguins total dedicated to our pleasure.

    Exactly the same, except totally different.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    -o -o o- -o
    (\ (\ /) (\
    ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
    ... Ongiet georne hwæt sy god oþþe yfel, ond toscead simle.
    Keenly perceive what is good or evil, and always distinguish them.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.3.3(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint @ (2:280/464.113)
  • From Nick Boel@1:154/700 to Maurice Kinal on Mon Aug 11 17:20:52 2025
    Hey Maurice!

    On Mon, Aug 11 2025 15:11:13 -0500, you wrote:

    <Esc>:read /proc/version Linux version 6.15.9 (root@offgrid) (gcc
    (GCC) 15.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.45) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon
    Aug 11 06:37:39 UTC 2025

    Looking good. I should be right about there with you shortly (whenever they decide to update gcc, that is).

    $ cat /proc/version
    Linux version 6.15.9-arch1-1 (linux@archlinux) (gcc (GCC) 15.1.1 20250729, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.45.0) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat, 02 Aug 2025 01:20:06 +0000

    Just over four and a half hours for this machine. Now let us see
    whether or not fidonetting still works. I see four penguins below
    that seem to think it is working.

    Took me about 60 seconds including the reboot, and I was back in action. What can I say, I'm too impatient to wait 4.5 hours. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... Sarcasm, because beating people up is illegal.
    --- SBBSecho 3.29-Linux
    * Origin: _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (1:154/700)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.2989 to Nick Boel on Mon Aug 11 22:49:17 2025
    Hey Nick!

    whenever they decide to update gcc, that is

    slackware-current has it. I haven't checked but I think I might have outpaced them as well. Usually I am just a step behind the archlinux powers-that-be.

    Took me about 60 seconds including the reboot

    There is no way that is possible. I am guessing that even a 96 penguin threadripper would take at least minutes to compile a beefy kernel, with modules from hell, as well as gzip them, and then archive/compress the entire thing into one tidy package using xz, which I believe is still a single threaded app. Sorry but I have to call bullshit on this one.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    o- o- -o -o -o o- -o o- o- -o -o o- o- o- -o -o /) /) (\ (\ (\ /) (\ /) /) (\ (\ /) /) /) (\ (\ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ... Fidonet 4K - You load sixteen penguins and what do you get?
    --- GNU bash, version 5.3.3(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: One of us @ (1:153/7001.2989)
  • From Nick Boel@1:154/700 to Maurice Kinal on Mon Aug 11 19:41:20 2025
    Hey Maurice!

    On Mon, Aug 11 2025 17:49:17 -0500, you wrote:

    Took me about 60 seconds including the reboot

    There is no way that is possible. I am guessing that even a 96
    penguin threadripper would take at least minutes to compile a beefy
    kernel, with modules from hell, as well as gzip them, and then archive/compress the entire thing into one tidy package using xz,
    which I believe is still a single threaded app. Sorry but I have to
    call bullshit on this one.

    Who said anything about compiling? ;)

    "Linux version 6.15.9-arch1-1 (linux@archlinux)" is precompiled before it gets to me, and I install it with 'pacman', the Archlinux package manager.

    It literally takes about 30 seconds to download and install a new kernel. Then another 30 seconds or so to reboot the VM so the new kernel is used. Definitely beats watching a single package compile for 4+ hours. Plus, I don't need every bit of boot-up time and processing power or even special modules or anything like that, that tinkering with a custom kernel would possibly get me these days.

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... Sarcasm, because beating people up is illegal.
    --- SBBSecho 3.29-Linux
    * Origin: _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (1:154/700)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.2989 to Nick Boel on Tue Aug 12 02:00:55 2025
    Hey Nick!

    Who said anything about compiling?

    I did. Lately 3 times, once from 3 different machines, compiling the exact same source, with the exact same .config. I only did this to satisfy my curiousity about compatibilty from differing hardware and would they produce the same result usable on any x86_64 host, although it probably would have no issues running in a virtualized enviroment without changing a damn thing.

    Definitely beats watching a single package compile for 4+ hours.

    5+ hours on "Little Mikey's Brain". I didn't bother timing the kernel build on this machine but will on the next one which is a 16 penguin epyc with tons of ram and a targetted nvme disk. Not exactly in the same league as a threadripper but is more than enough for my evil, demented purposes.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    -o o- -o -o o- o- o- o- o- -o -o -o o- o- o- o-
    (\ /) (\ (\ /) /) /) /) /) (\ (\ (\ /) /) /) /)
    ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ... Fidonet 4K - Sweet Sixteen Penguins of the Apocalypse.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.3.3(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: One of us @ (1:153/7001.2989)