• Age verification in OS

    From Ron L.@1:120/616 to All on Wed Mar 4 07:45:32 2026
    So if you haven't been looking around lately, there is a troubling push from some gov't's: Age Verification

    Now this is being billed as a "keep kids safe", but, as usual for any Leftie policy, the reality is the exact opposite.

    Overview:
    The push is for every OS (Linux, Windows, Mac, and I assume FreeDOS too) to implement:
    1. A way to "reasonably" verify a person's age and store it away.
    2. An API for applications (which includes browsers) to use that API and get the age.

    The excuse is "we don't want little Johnny to hack in to dad's laptop and surf porn sites".
    The reality is "this is the first step to knowing who you are on the computer and tracking everything you do/say/etc."

    It's unknown if they will make Micro$oft revamp MS-DOS for our vintage computers to include this feature.
    But I guess CP/M will be safe for a while since DRI is gone.
    I have no idea how they will make this work on TRS-80's and Commodores, though.

    This is already law in The People's Socialist Utopia of California and the Dictatorship of Brazil and is currently up for a vote in the pot smoking Mile High state of Colorado. (Do you see the trend here?)

    I don't know about you, but the last time I fired up Leisure Suit Larry on the NuXT, I couldn't play it because I couldn't answer the age verification questions.

    There is already opposition to this.
    IHMO: I don't see where California and Colorado have the authority in the first place.
    Some Linux distros have already said "we aren't going to change anything and if you live in California, you are not allowed to use our software."
    And of course, if Brazil makes any demands, we can laugh in their Evil Dictator's face and ignore them - and maybe move to Wyoming and sue them through their GRANITE act.

    But this is all window dressing. The real purpose here is
    1. To have the Elitists assert their control over other people's property (i.e. operating systems, computers)
    for the purpose of
    2. Control.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Wed Mar 4 06:44:56 2026
    Some Linux distros have already said "we aren't going to change anything and if you live in California, you are not allowed to use our software."

    Facebook requires users to be "at least 13 years old." That's Facebook's way of saying "13 is fair game for sexual predators." The other problem is how do they expect to verify that a user is 13? By forcing them to submit a photo so that some pervert in an underground Hawaiian bunker can guess their age?

    You're right that it's a control thing. Some people have the "sysgod" mentality.

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  • From Brent Hendricks@1:135/250 to All on Sat Mar 7 10:27:03 2026
    "THE LEFT THE LEFT THE LEFT!!!"

    "Commiefornia!"

    "Socialist Utopia of California!"

    The bill pass'd UNANIMOUSLY!! That sounds pretty bipartisan to me. Before you two say it, I am aware the democrats hold a super majority, but if the right also did not think this was a good idea they would have voted NO. Hell, if they were like you they would vote no out of spite.

    For the record, I do not believe you should have to have an account with the hardware manufacture, or software company to use their product, but that is the way the industry has gone.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Grant Weasner on Wed Mar 11 07:17:31 2026
    Grant Weasner wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I myself don't understand how their idea of a bill got put into ink,
    and law. The very OS types you mention, will compell users to abandon,
    if state prosecutors start bringing up civil cases.

    IHMO: This is just a distraction/push.

    Distraction: try to distract away from other things happening - like Trump succeeding in Iraq.
    Push: One of the Left's tactics is to do something that is most certainly unconstitutional, and wait for pushback. When they get none, they push some more, etc. But, as you said, someone will have to go to court over this and no one wants to pay that expense.

    But the sinister background is to track people - especially children - on the Internet.

    The other crazy thing is, its a civil issue, which means most people dragged into court will likely have to represent themselves or pay for
    an attorney, which would also be an insult even if the defendant won
    the case.

    The law is written so that the USERS won't go to court. It's the companies who produce the OS that are on the hook. But that will make open source companies seek other states/countries to base their operations out of. There are several in Colorado and California today - one of the reasons the laws started there.

    The crafters of the bill just didn't seem to consult with any computing engineers.

    They never do. Congresses everywhere are staffed by morons who think they are the smartest people in the country.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Grant Weasner on Thu Mar 12 07:58:37 2026
    Grant Weasner wrote to Dr. What <=-

    seems like there is some other agenda given meta was one of the main contributors to initative.

    We need to remember that there isn't just one group with one goal here.

    A company like Meta wants to use it to track a person on the Internet - which they do a lot today when you log into other sites using your Facebook ID - to collect a profile which is used to offer you ads, etc.

    Then you have gov't group who want to track you to see if you go to any "bad" sites. "Bad" = sites that they can't control that tell you things they don't want you to know.

    Then you have the pedos that want to be able to target kids because if they pulled their stuff on adults, they'd get put in jail.

    The stupid part is the premiss is FALSE.

    That's because it's not a premise. It's an excuse.

    Like the politicians believe the internet is in the computer by
    default.

    Politicians are all morons. That's why they are politicians.

    I have computers that have no access to the internet because they don't have wifi or ethernet cards.

    I have a room of vintage computers - most of which CAN access the Internet. But the companies that made them and their OSs don't exist anymore.

    The dang OS isn't internet.

    This is what we call the "frog in the pot" problem.

    Put a frog in a pot with room temp water. He will be happy.
    Turn the heat up on the pot slowly, so the frog doesn't feel discomfort and gets used to the higher temp.
    The frog will happilly let himself be cooked.

    The gov't tried all sort of stuff to block access to stuff they don't like and it all failed. Microsoft has tried with Win 11 - which everyone hates. Apple has always been a willing partner. Now they want to go after the open source stuff. If not to control it, but to remove it from use.

    I think make the laws on the sites that are harming people not the dang computer/OS. If twiter/X, facebook, ..etc, are harming people then restrict those places, not the people.

    Most of the time, a law is part of the problem. Not the solution.
    But the Elitists don't want to believe that.


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