The media is currently fixated on "FBI Depty Director Dan Bongino got mad at Pam Bondi, yelled at her, and has taken a day off work because he's so angry because the DOJ refuses to release Epstein's client list."

I can see through all of this; "sources say" aren't sources. So that's simply not true until an actual name gets dropped (as a "source.")

I sense that the media is trying to create the illusion that the Trump administration is hiding "an Epstein client list" that probably doesn't even
exist. Even if it did, a "client list" for what? Was he a child prostitution pimp who kept a list of Johns in a notebook? (I never heard that version of the story.)

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On Sat 12-Jul-2025 1:50p, Aaron Thomas@1:342/200.0 wrote:

I sense that the media is trying to create the illusion that the Trump administration is hiding "an Epstein client list" that probably doesn't even
exist. Even if it did, a "client list" for what? Was he a child

Given the fact that the administration didn't start saying the list never existed until Elon Musk made the statement that Trump's name was on list. I think it IS highly probable that it isn't just an illusion.

Knowing that most criminal enterprises do in fact keep maticulous records (escpecially if it can be use for leverage against rich / powerful people), I would find it more difficult to believe the list doesn't exist.

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exist. Even if it did, a "client list" for what? Was he a child

Given the fact that the administration didn't start saying the list never existed until Elon Musk made the statement that Trump's name was on
list. I think it IS highly probable that it isn't just an illusion.

I understand your point and it is suspicious how Trump is discouraging curiosity about Epstein.

But I don't understand what the list is about. What kind of clients did Epstein have? Was he running an underage prostitution ring? So all the names on the list are of people who are almost certainly pedophiles?

I need to understand the significance of the "list."

Knowing that most criminal enterprises do in fact keep maticulous records (escpecially if it can be use for leverage against rich / powerful people), I would find it more difficult to believe the list doesn't
exist.

What are you basing that knowledge on? It's not common knowledge. Which criminal organization had a list powerful people that the authorities were able to use to take them down?

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Yes, Epstein was accused of providing underage girls for the purpose of sex to rich clientelle that he flew out to his island.

The purported list contains the names of people whome he flew out to "Epstein Island".

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Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

I can see through all of this;

I think that most people can today, and that's a good thing.

If the media is fixated on something, look for what they are trying to distract away from - like our first budget surplus in how many decades?

"sources say" aren't sources. So that's
simply not true until an actual name gets dropped (as a "source.")

They never are sources.

Did you see the Pierre Poilievre in the infamous "apple" video?

Liberal reporter: A lot of people would say....
Pierre: Which people would say that?
Liberal: Mumble, mumble.. A great many Canadians...
Pierre: Like who?
Liberal: Well, I don't know who.
Pierre: You're the one who asked the question, so you must know somebody.

Bottom line: "a great many Canadians" = "Leftie nut jobs in our media company"

I sense that the media is trying to create the illusion that the Trump administration is hiding "an Epstein client list" that probably doesn't even exist. Even if it did, a "client list" for what? Was he a child prostitution pimp who kept a list of Johns in a notebook? (I never
heard that version of the story.)

The problem is that there are too many holes here.

If there is no list, what is Maxwell in prison for? No list = no clients = no trafficing of minors.
What did Epstein commit suicide for? There was no proof he did anything wrong.

Then there's the video released showing nothing happening outside of Epstein's cell - but with an obvious minute of video missing.

No one in their right minds would believe any of this.

IHMO, this was 2 things:
1. It was a message to the people on the list. "Work with us, or we will release everything."
2. To keep the Epstein thing in people's minds and not let the media memory hole it.

I think the people involved would hope that this would all just fade away and I think the Trump admin is making it clear that it won't.

Leverage. It's all about leverage.


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Brent Hendricks -> Aaron Thomas skrev 2025-07-12 18:19:

Given the fact that the administration didn't start saying the list
never existed until Elon Musk made the statement that Trump's name was
on list. I think it IS highly probable that it isn't just an illusion.

That bimbo, that seems to be some kind of press secretary, assured us, on live TV, that she had the list *on* *her* *desk* . And then she hadn't. Just like the TACO stupid one...


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On 13 Jul 2025, Björn Felten said the following...

us, on live TV, that she had the list *on* *her* *desk* . And then she

She said she had the File on her desk.

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On Sun 13-Jul-2025 9:51a, Ron L.@1:120/616.0 said to Aaron Thomas:

Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

I can see through all of this;

away from - like our first budget surplus in how many decades?

Wow... So you are beating off to your Trump doll, because of a ONE MONTH budget surplus?

Someone really needs to help you out with your maths.

May $316 Billion defficit
June $27 Billion Surplus.

So just for MAY by itself, that still leaves a defficit of $289 dollars.

Year to date we are 1.36 TRILLION in the red

Yuge win there!

The problem is that there are too many holes here.

Yeah, like the most glaring one, Epstein didn't kill himself, Missing footage from the security cameras that just happened to be around the time he supposedly killed himself. The files being sealed all around, Pam Bondi saying she had the files on her desk, and was looking at the names.

Then Musk, after falling out with Trump makes a public statement that Trump's name is on the list, then suddently "There never were any files..."

Yes, a lot of holes there, and people want answers!

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Yes, Epstein was accused of providing underage girls for the purpose
of sex to rich clientelle that he flew out to his island.

The purported list contains the names of people whome he flew out to "Epstein Island".

I appreciate that explanation, but I'm still wondering: how was the list assembled and why?

I don't keep a list of people who visit my home, but if I did, what can I prove with it? I'm a convicted drunk driver, so does that mean that the list of people who came to my house are suspected coconspirators of my crime?

The media gives us too few details of the significance of the list.

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On 13 Jul 2025, Brent Hendricks said the following...

Wow... So you are beating off to your Trump doll, because of a ONE
MONTH budget surplus?

Hasn't happened since 2017, his first administration. Removing negative spending needs to be celebrated, in anyway...

He's he's working his way to balancing the budget and reducing the deficit, wasteful spending AND paying down the debt.

The US pays ~ 1 Trillion in interest charges on the debit. If it did help, masturbation while looking at a Trump doll... Everyone should do it even if it is to help future Americans manage better.

BTW, I'm sure a photo, hopefully with Melania in it... Or a video of one of his rally speeches will work as well.

We are TRILLIONS and TRILLIONS in debt and pay a Trillion in interest on that debt...

START Tugging to help the future generations... Stop donging it to Hillary or Kamala's likeness and do something useful for the country.

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If the media is fixated on something, look for what they are trying to distract away from - like our first budget surplus in how many decades?

Was there a surplus with the BBB?

Did you see the Pierre Poilievre in the infamous "apple" video?

No but he sounds like a smart guy to me. It should be illegal (in both of our countries) for the media to say such ridiculous things as "sources say."

The problem is that there are too many holes here.

If there is no list, what is Maxwell in prison for? No list = no
clients = no trafficing of minors.
What did Epstein commit suicide for? There was no proof he did anything wrong.

I'm under the impression that Trump either visited Epstein Island or the Democrats made a fake "Epstein list," and that Trump is trying to hide it for the greater good (which is fine with me.)

Then there's the video released showing nothing happening outside of Epstein's cell - but with an obvious minute of video missing.

I use a Reolink NVR for home surveillance, and the NVR has to be rebooted once a week, so my camera footage is down for 1-2 minutes each week for the reboot, but I'm confident that jails use a more sophisticated system.

I think the people involved would hope that this would all just fade
away and I think the Trump admin is making it clear that it won't.

Are you sure? It sounds like Trump wants to memory hole it. I don't mind either way, because it doesn't hurt me as much as a Harris presidency would.

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On 13 Jul 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Was there a surplus with the BBB?

There was a massive surplus in Tariffs and other things that relate to the border... they aren't paying for hotel rooms or flying people into the country during the night.

AND Trump doesn't take a wage... and 100s of thousands are about to get fired from an over bloated bureaucracy.

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There was a massive surplus in Tariffs and other things that relate to
the border... they aren't paying for hotel rooms or flying people into
the country during the night.

AND Trump doesn't take a wage... and 100s of thousands are about to get fired from an over bloated bureaucracy.

Sounds good to me.

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Re: Re: "Sources said"
By: Brent Hendricks to Ron L. on Sun Jul 13 2025 11:19 am

May $316 Billion defficit
June $27 Billion Surplus.

So just for MAY by itself, that still leaves a defficit of $289 dollars.

To be made up by American consumers paying tariffs on consumer goods, passed on from the importers. Some victory.
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Re: Re: "Sources said"
By: Aaron Thomas to Brent Hendricks on Sun Jul 13 2025 10:38 am

The purported list contains the names of people whome he flew out to
"Epstein Island".

I appreciate that explanation, but I'm still wondering: how was the list assembled and why?

How does that matter to this discussion?
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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

If the media is fixated on something, look for what they are trying to distract away from - like our first budget surplus in how many decades?

Was there a surplus with the BBB?

Sort of. I think it was mainly coming from DOGE and the tariffs.

No but he sounds like a smart guy to me. It should be illegal (in both
of our countries) for the media to say such ridiculous things as
"sources say."

"Illegal", probably not. But we need to call them out like Pierre did when they used that term. Today, when a Leftie says "sources say", I immediately tune him out because he's just spewing propaganda.

I'm under the impression that Trump either visited Epstein Island or
the Democrats made a fake "Epstein list," and that Trump is trying to
hide it for the greater good (which is fine with me.)

If that was the case, then the Biden Regime had access to that information and it would have been broadcast all over the place.

So I consider "Trump visited Epstein island" to be just smoke right now.

I think the people involved would hope that this would all just fade
away and I think the Trump admin is making it clear that it won't.

Are you sure? It sounds like Trump wants to memory hole it. I don't
mind either way, because it doesn't hurt me as much as a Harris
presidency would.

No, if he wanted to memory hole it he would have just strung us along by saying "we are still going through it" and just letting the issues of the day occupy people's minds until it goes away.

Memory hole-ing depends on **not** saying anything.

What Trump did was make sure it stays in people's minds for a long time now.

But this is the frustration that I think most people have: We don't have all the information and we have no way to find out.


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an over bloated bureaucracy.

That statement is redundant.


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The purported list contains the names of people whome he flew out to
"Epstein Island".

I appreciate that explanation, but I'm still wondering: how was the lis assembled and why?

How does that matter to this discussion?

Because what's the significance of it? Does everyone who walks into a bar get wasted and drive away drunk? If you give me a list of names of people who walked into a bar, what am I gonna do with it?

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"Illegal", probably not. But we need to call them out like Pierre did when they used that term. Today, when a Leftie says "sources say", I immediately tune him out because he's just spewing propaganda.

The sheeple are defenseless. They need the government to protect them from their own ignorance.

But this is the frustration that I think most people have: We don't
have all the information and we have no way to find out.

They're frustrated by choice. Only Epstein's victims have anything to be curious about. What some guy did on some island will never be pertinent information to me. I wasn't there, so I can't say that I care. (I wish everyone had that attitude.)

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On 14 Jul 2025, Ron L. said the following...

an over bloated bureaucracy.

That statement is redundant.

As was yours...

HAHAHA, I couldn't help myself.

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Aaron Thomas -> Kurt Weiske skrev 2025-07-14 13:46:

Because what's the significance of it? Does everyone who walks into a
bar get wasted and drive away drunk? If you give me a list of names of people who walked into a bar, what am I gonna do with it?

Are you really that stupid, or are you just trolling?

It's a list of people who have been shipped to an island, where they were promised fresh meat to do whatever they wanted with, like popping the cherry.



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Because what's the significance of it? Does everyone who walks into a bar get wasted and drive away drunk? If you give me a list of names o people who walked into a bar, what am I gonna do with it?

Are you really that stupid, or are you just trolling?

It's a list of people who have been shipped to an island, where they were promised fresh meat to do whatever they wanted with, like popping
the cherry.

How does a list confirm any of that? Do you think criminals are that stupid?

How stupid is it to believe in something that you've never even seen?

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Re: "Sources said"
By: Björn Felten to Aaron Thomas on Mon Jul 14 2025 07:48 pm

Because what's the significance of it? Does everyone who walks into a bar
get wasted and drive away drunk? If you give me a list of names of people
who walked into a bar, what am I gonna do with it?

Are you really that stupid, or are you just trolling?

That's a common deflection tactic around here. state a position and when confronted, pretend you don't understand the argument.
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That's a common deflection tactic around here. state a position and when confronted, pretend you don't understand the argument.

Part of the problem is people who don't quote, and the other problem is that I'm here to discuss things and not to bash others.

The purported list contains the names of people whome he flew out to KW> BH>> "Epstein Island".

I appreciate that explanation, but I'm still wondering: how was the lis KW> > assembled and why?

How does that matter to this discussion?

How does it not matter? What makes a piece of paper with words on it so important? Do you realize that there's such a thing as handwritten lies?

My main question remains unanswered: Why would a criminal write a diary of his crimes? How smart would that be? If such a document exists, law enforcement can investigate it, but a piece of paper with words on it doesn't provide red-handed proof of anything.

Suppose I write on a piece of paper: "Kurt Weiske conspired in the killing of JFK," then I bury it in a time capsule. Years later, when they dig it up, do you think you'll have cops banging on your door?

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Re: Re: "Sources said"
By: Aaron Thomas to Kurt Weiske on Mon Jul 14 2025 05:13 pm

How does it not matter? What makes a piece of paper with words on it so important? Do you realize that there's such a thing as handwritten lies?

My main question remains unanswered: Why would a criminal write a diary of his crimes? How smart would that be? If such a document exists, law enforcement can investigate it, but a piece of paper with words on it doesn' provide red-handed proof of anything.

Suppose I write on a piece of paper: "Kurt Weiske conspired in the killing o JFK," then I bury it in a time capsule. Years later, when they dig it up, do you think you'll have cops banging on your door?

Epstein trafficked in young girls. Many powerful and influential people visited his island, and their travels are documented in flight logs. Epstein and Maxwell both admitted to wiring their island and their NY houses with cameras, "for insurance". Trump has said many times that he and Epstein were friends, and there's photographic evidence of them together (and also some rather dodgy, photos showing Trump partying with underage girls. Trump's own candor doesn't help.



But, you question the validity of a list all you want. It doesn't change the issue at hand.
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On 14 Jul 2025, Kurt Weiske said the following...

Epstein trafficked in young girls. Many powerful and influential people visited his island, and their travels are documented in flight logs. Epstein and Maxwell both admitted to wiring their island and their NY houses with cameras, "for insurance". Trump has said many times that he and Epstein were friends, and there's photographic evidence of them together (and also some rather dodgy, photos showing Trump partying with underage girls. Trump's own candor doesn't help.

Ok there is photos of Epstein and Trump and..
People who hate Trump who want this to grow into more then what it is.
Into a story that will propel and launch them into the sky like Superman.

That narrative will never happen and wishing for it does not make it so.

Don't you think if there was something there,
the desperate democRATS would of used this in the election?

and yet the liberal media thinks this is their moment.
They think they smell blood.
Here is the proof everyone from pbs, pMSNBC, Newsweek to the freaking The Los Angeles Times are trying to be the first one to get the alleged dirt on the President. Ex: https://tinyurl.com/449ptzek

Did they learn nothing from the Russian Dossier and russia, russia, russia.
if that was enough then there is the very real lawsuit of which Trump won against the parent company of CBS news / Paramount paying Trump millions of dollars of complete and total failure.
Apparently not.
This says more about them chasing a nothing-burger.
They are hurting already weakened creditability from the last screw up when they told of America that Crackling Kamila Harris would win. Not!
State after state went Trumps way, but wait there is that blue wall.
When it fall the looks upon their faces was priceless.
These people in this so called media are total losers as well as the idiots who sit on the edge of their seats watching this brain-dead programming.

The American Public also knew the existence of these photos showing the pair together and yet Americans voted for Trump overwhelmingly.

... Still waitng for that Coffee :)

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Epstein trafficked in young girls. Many powerful and influential people visited his island, and their travels are documented in flight logs.

Private plane pilots are not required to keep track of all occupants, and they're not even required to log every flight.

(Ask calcmandan.)

Epstein and Maxwell both admitted to wiring their island and their NY houses with cameras, "for insurance". Trump has said many times that he

That's the kind of stuff we need to see; not some dusty old logbooks.

and Epstein were friends, and there's photographic evidence of them together (and also some rather dodgy, photos showing Trump partying with underage girls. Trump's own candor doesn't help.

I've partied with underage girls before. I never banged any of them though. But if there's a photo of me in the same room as them, then I'm in big trouble?

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

The sheeple are defenseless. They need the government to protect them
from their own ignorance.

The Elitists have worked for decades to create a dependent class.

They're frustrated by choice.

I don't think so.

Only Epstein's victims have anything to
be curious about. What some guy did on some island will never be
pertinent information to me. I wasn't there, so I can't say that I
care. (I wish everyone had that attitude.)

I think people are less frustrated with the lack of knowledge and more frustrated by the lack of prosecutions.


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On Mon 14-Jul-2025 11:17p, Aaron Thomas@1:342/200.0 said to Kurt Weiske:

Epstein trafficked in young girls. Many powerful and influential

people

visited his island, and their travels are documented in flight logs.

Private plane pilots are not required to keep track of all occupants, and they're not even required to log every flight.

Trust me Epsteins pilots were not private pilots, nor were they operating their flights under a Part61.

At the very least the pilots must hold a commercial pilots certificate and were operting under Part 135, "Commuter, or ON-DEMAND), which does require crew/passenger/cargo manefests.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

I sense that the media is trying to create the illusion that the Trump administration is hiding "an Epstein client list" that probably doesn't even exist. Even if it did, a "client list" for what? Was he a child prostitution pimp who kept a list of Johns in a notebook? (I never
heard that version of the story.)

Your first clue was when Ghislane Maxwell was imprisoned. Your second
clue was when Pam Bondi said "I have the list on my desk and am

Having a list of powerful pedophiles (democratic or republican) could
be quite the insurance policy - although it didn't work out so well for
Epstein. Does anyone believe he committed suicide?

It's likely that the other people on the list would remove Trump from
power one way or another if he releases the list, so he's painted
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Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

How does that matter to this discussion?

Because what's the significance of it? Does everyone who walks into a
bar get wasted and drive away drunk? If you give me a list of names of people who walked into a bar, what am I gonna do with it?

Poor analogy.





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Only Epstein's victims have anything to
be curious about. What some guy did on some island will never be pertinent information to me. I wasn't there, so I can't say that I care. (I wish everyone had that attitude.)

I think people are less frustrated with the lack of knowledge and more frustrated by the lack of prosecutions.

Some people probably do, but an insatiable appetite for blood can never be satisfied.

It's a waste of time. Look what happened to Prince Andrew. Look what happened to P Diddy. Elites are allowed to rape other people, and there's nothing we can do about it.

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Private plane pilots are not required to keep track of all occupants, they're not even required to log every flight.

Trust me Epsteins pilots were not private pilots, nor were they
operating their flights under a Part61.

Ok, but what are we going to do with a list of people who flew on a plane?

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Having a list of powerful pedophiles (democratic or republican) could
be quite the insurance policy - although it didn't work out so well for
Epstein. Does anyone believe he committed suicide?

But riding on an airplane or visiting an island does not equal pedophilia.

Ghislane Maxwell is still alive and has been behind bars for 4 years already without "getting suicidal" and Epstein's "suicide" has been referred to as such by Biden's FBI and Trump's FBI. Nobody is even disputing that, except for conspiracy theorists.

A piece of paper isn't a smoking gun. We need victims to tell us about all the horrible things that Trump did to them, but so far, only Prince Andrew has had that honor and look what happens with you f with Prince Andrew.

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Because what's the significance of it? Does everyone who walks into a bar get wasted and drive away drunk? If you give me a list of names o people who walked into a bar, what am I gonna do with it?

Poor analogy.

Give me a list of all the people who flew on a "not private" plane with a pedophile, and then I'll take them in for questioning.

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Hello Aaron!

28 Dec 70 01:35, you wrote to Ron L.:

But this is the frustration that I think most people have: We
don't have all the information and we have no way to find out.

They're frustrated by choice. Only Epstein's victims have anything to
be curious about. What some guy did on some island will never be
pertinent information to me. I wasn't there, so I can't say that I
care. (I wish everyone had that attitude.)

You ... don't care... about child rape? Am I undestanding that right?

Pedophelia is fine, as long as you don't have to hear about it? and you wish everyone had that attitude?


what the hell is wrong with you?


I've said since the beginning, I don't care who is on that list. Release it all, and bring the giant hammer of justice down on each and every one of those monsters.




Mike


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So it was asked why criminals, might keep detailed records of their crimes, and in the realm of criminal activities performed by nation states, the more equigious the crime, the more detailed the records seem.

1) Blackmail as already stated.
2) Paranoia - Seen alot with the Mafia, or corporations that crosss the lines in ethics or legallity. Since I know I am stealing from everyone else, I suspect someone is stealing from me. So you keep two sets of books, one that makes it look like your business dealings are clean, the other that has the real cash flow and its origin.
3) Legitamcy (Nation States) - As seen when governments perportrate crimes against humanity such as genocide (Nazi's, Khmere Rouge, and KGB), both kept extreemly detaled documentation of their , "crimes", tortue, and execution. It is thought that this was to make it appear that the cause and process was legitimate.




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They're frustrated by choice. Only Epstein's victims have anything to be curious about. What some guy did on some island will never be pertinent information to me. I wasn't there, so I can't say that I care. (I wish everyone had that attitude.)

You ... don't care... about child rape? Am I undestanding that right?

I mind my own business. If it were my business, which I hope it never is, then I'd care. But getting excited about something you saw on TV is one of the dumbest things a modern human can do. (IOW: get a life!)

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So it was asked why criminals, might keep detailed records of their crimes, and in the realm of criminal activities performed by nation states, the more equigious the crime, the more detailed the records seem.

Thanks for this explanation.

1) Blackmail as already stated.
2) Paranoia - Seen alot with the Mafia, or corporations that crosss the
3) Legitamcy (Nation States) - As seen when governments perportrate

The problem with it though, is:
1) For Epstein to blackmail someone (Trump for example) he would need more than a logbook that sorta-but-barely proves that Trump visited Orgy Island.

2) If the paranoia scenario is what happened, then wouldn't that mean that any information taken from Epstein (i.e. the "Epstein Client List") would be even less likely to be accurate?

3) The "legitimacy" scenario seems unlikely too, because how is a man going to defend molesting underage girls? "Read my novel and you'll thank me for raping teenagers?"

I appreciate the "research" you did on this topic. So now my only remaining question is "What are we going to do with a list of names?"

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On Tue 15-Jul-2025 9:58a, Aaron Thomas@1:342/200.0 said to Kurt Weiske:

But riding on an airplane or visiting an island does not equal pedophilia.

If it doesn't then why go to such great lengths to hide it?

Ghislane Maxwell is still alive and has been behind bars for 4 years already without "getting suicidal" and Epstein's "suicide" has been referred to as such by Biden's FBI and Trump's FBI. Nobody is even disputing that, except for conspiracy theorists.

So now we are going trust the Biden adminsitration, and the FBI? I thought they were just out to get Trump. So why does the Trump adminsitration that stated "IT IS ON MY DESK.." Now say it doesn't exist? Sounds fishy to me.

A piece of paper isn't a smoking gun. We need victims to tell us about all the horrible things that Trump did to them, but so far, only Prince Andrew has had that honor and look what happens with you f with Prince Andrew.

Funny, that is the same thing Nixon said about 18 minutes and 30 seconds of missing tape.

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Hello Aaron!

29 Dec 70 22:41, you wrote to me:

They're frustrated by choice. Only Epstein's victims have

anything to

be curious about. What some guy did on some island will

never be

pertinent information to me. I wasn't there, so I can't say

that I

care. (I wish everyone had that attitude.)

You ... don't care... about child rape? Am I undestanding that
right?

I mind my own business. If it were my business, which I hope it never
is, then I'd care. But getting excited about something you saw on TV
is one of the dumbest things a modern human can do. (IOW: get a life!)

I've seen you get worked up over politics in this very echo many times in the past. But you don't care about child abuse if it's not happening "around you".


If everyone had that attitude, as you claim to wish, no criminals would be brought to justice because the vast majority of the judges, lawyers, lawmakers, etc aren't "personally involved" with various crimes.


And you claim the Democrats are monsters.


You are the epitome of the old addage "screw you, I got mine"




Mike


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But riding on an airplane or visiting an island does not equal pedophi

If it doesn't then why go to such great lengths to hide it?

Maybe Trump rode on Epstein's plane and maybe Trump visited Orgy Island. But then again, we might never know.

But if we did know, what difference would it make? We already know that Bill Clinton and Bill Richardson partied with Epstein. Does that mean that they're rapists too? Or just Trump because he's icky?

So now we are going trust the Biden adminsitration, and the FBI? I thought they were just out to get Trump. So why does the Trump adminsitration that stated "IT IS ON MY DESK.." Now say it doesn't
exist? Sounds fishy to me.

You're right about that. So now we need to focus on how we're going to take Trump down once we find out that he traveled on a plane with a pedophile, because surely there's got to be something illegal about that.

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I've seen you get worked up over politics in this very echo many times
in the past. But you don't care about child abuse if it's not happening "around you".

If there's enough evidence to make a conviction, then go get em. But if it's a list of people who rode on a plane together, then I'm gonna leave the pitchfork in the garage.

If everyone had that attitude, as you claim to wish, no criminals would be brought to justice because the vast majority of the judges, lawyers, lawmakers, etc aren't "personally involved" with various crimes.

Evidence is needed. Not hyped-up wanna-be evidence. "There's a popsicle stick with Trump's fingerprints on it and... and... and...." (Get real!)

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On Tue 15-Jul-2025 7:56p, Aaron Thomas@1:342/200.0 said to Mike Miller:

I've seen you get worked up over politics in this very echo many

times

in the past. But you don't care about child abuse if it's not

happening

"around you".

If there's enough evidence to make a conviction, then go get em. But if it's a list of people who rode on a plane together, then I'm gonna leave the pitchfork in the garage.

Then release the list. Simple.. Don't suddenly say, "No list existed." As soon as someone says, "His name is on it."

Evidence is needed. Not hyped-up wanna-be evidence. "There's a popsicle stick with Trump's fingerprints on it and... and... and...." (Get real!)

Oh I am sure there is evidence, that will implicate a lot of powerful people. Which is why the powers that be don't want it to ever see the light of day.

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If there's enough evidence to make a conviction, then go get em. But i it's a list of people who rode on a plane together, then I'm gonna lea the pitchfork in the garage.

Then release the list. Simple.. Don't suddenly say, "No list existed."
As soon as someone says, "His name is on it."

You can't always count on presidents to release things, unless you're counting on Joe Biden to release Russian arms dealer Viktor Bout in exchange for an American criminal who took drugs into Russia illegally.

Evidence is needed. Not hyped-up wanna-be evidence. "There's a popsicl stick with Trump's fingerprints on it and... and... and...." (Get real

Oh I am sure there is evidence, that will implicate a lot of powerful people. Which is why the powers that be don't want it to ever see the light of day.

That's the speculative part of the story that's been floating around for quite some time. I wish Biden's DOJ would have released the Epstein files, but they too kept them out of our view.

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