• American politics r/n

    From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to PABLO GENER on Fri Feb 7 11:23:00 2025
    What I make out of all this, is that Trump's idea of a new 'Golden Age' for America is having America see no one opposing them anywhere in the world, politically, economically, culturally or militarly, and so the USA can do as they please, use and throw away whatever they bump into, and basically be the most vile and disgusting bully kid of the whole world and have everyone shut u
    around them, out of fear.

    P.S. Welcome to FIDO Politics. ;)


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  • From Fermin Sanchez@2:301/123 to Pablo Gener on Fri Feb 7 18:37:02 2025

    Hello Pablo!

    06 Feb 25 14:01, you wrote to all:

    What I get from the US Government so far

    from what I'm seeing on social media in the past few months up to this day, this is what I can gather:

    - Harris warned the american people (while in the campaign for

    ... and there it is, the problem. Harris. The democrats are at least in part to blame for Trump sitting in the White House.

    Harris had FOUR years time to position herself to run in the next election. Looking at Biden 4 years ago, it wouldn't have come as a total surprise if she'd succeeded him before then. But nothing of the sort happened. She appeared insecure in the last four years. I mean - did she ever clearly state her position to anything while she was VP? Harris not being able to position herself better could of course also be because of the Biden administration or maybe she was being held back by the democratic party. Who knows. Biden of course held on too long. The party should have built up more pressure to get him to step back sooner or not even enter the race at all. That would also have given the Democrats time to do a proper evaluation. I don't think Kamala would have been on the ticket if that had happened. Certainly not as President. Maybe another 4 years as a VP to finally get her act together.

    Then there was the election campaign. Trump did what he did against Hillary. He tailored his campaign to the opponent. The democrats of course wouldn't stoop down to that level. I guess upholding one's own principles was more important than to prevent Trump from gaining another term in office.

    In the end the Democrats need to have a long hard look in the mirror and ask themselves this one question: How BAD does your candidate have to be to lose to Trump?

    Regards
    Fermin


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sun Feb 9 09:16:17 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    But it looks like Mike is taking over for all of them now. Or he may be the only one who got reprogrammed in time.

    I think it's they/them!!!

    They are a hivemind. None of them can think for themselves.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Sun Feb 9 09:16:17 2025
    Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Wow. The delusion is strong here.

    I don't see any delusion here...

    Which is why you are delusional.

    ...as you are in agreement with him. You both seem to understand
    that she did nothing to position herself as a future Presidential candidate, and was not a viable candidate to run against Trump.

    And you completely missed the fact that she was totally unfit do to anything let alone be President. I don't even think she could get hired as a floor sweeper at McDonalds. Something like being a waitress at a good restaurant was certainly far beyond her capabilities.

    No amount of "positioning" would have changed that. She is completely incompetent. And while Biden had the excuse of demensia, the Ho had no such excuse for her complete lack of brains.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Feb 9 09:16:17 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Did he still vote Democrat in the last election?

    Dale died way before the election. Same with Lee.

    That didn't mean that they didn't "vote" in the election.

    On that note, I see where "The U.S. government recovered more than $31 million in federal payments that went to dead people. One Treasury official said it was "just the tip of the iceberg.""

    Democrats really like dead voters. Here in Michigan, many dead people vote. They really should lock those cemetary gates better on Election Day.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Sun Feb 9 09:50:00 2025
    He mentioned Dale and Alan and Bjorn. I didn't pick up that you meant Alan so my bad. ;)

    One could have reasonable conversations with Dale.

    No to the reasonable...

    If one is reasonable themselves, they sure could. He was nothing like Lee,
    for example.

    Now, if you definition of "reasonable" is "he took my word for everything"
    or "took the words of the same talking heads on the internet that I like"
    then, no, he was not "reasonable" by that measure.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sun Feb 9 10:08:26 2025
    Dale died way before the election. Same with Lee.

    That didn't mean that they didn't "vote" in the election.

    I was so desperate to get Trump back, that I considered doing some "extra voting" last year. Instead, I did the "bring 10 people to the polls" thing.

    On that note, I see where "The U.S. government recovered more than $31 million in federal payments that went to dead people. One Treasury official said it was "just the tip of the iceberg.""

    Social security payments, right? I heard about that. That's the 1 and only reason why Democrats would ever lift a finger to protect social security (so they can rip it off.)

    Democrats really like dead voters. Here in Michigan, many dead people vote. They really should lock those cemetary gates better on Election Day.

    That's everywhere. Supposedly the RNC cracked down on it last year, at least in some states.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Tue Feb 11 14:49:02 2025
    I swear that the Democrats wanted Trump to win this one. Or if they didn't "want" him to win, they at least anticipated it. It's probably got something to do with the trillions of dollars that they stole during the Weekend at Bernie's.

    It's more likely they didn't want their voter fraud system completely exposed so they could use it in other races and at other times.

    Yes, messing around while Trump is the nominee seems like a bad idea, since he's such a fighter. They can try their crap again when they have some jackass like Lindsey Graham on the ballot. Timing is everything for slithering reptilians.

    4 years from now, our credit at the world bank will be good for anoth 3 trillion for them to steal.

    Probably. My hope is that people will remember and not allow that.

    The good news is that the Democrat party will be completely destroyed by then, so they will have to infiltrate some other group. And that takes time.

    They are making pretty "good" progress with infiltrating the Republican party. The rino committee chairman in my country installed 2 Democrat judges, a Democrat state assembly member, a Democrat state senator, and a Democrat county executive. Then he had the audacity to invite all the registered Republicans over to the HQ to "celebrate Trump's victory."

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Wed Feb 12 10:32:00 2025
    I dunno. Everyone (Republican anyway) thought that Biden was the IDEAL candidate in 2020 but that didn't work out so well, did it? I would rather not take such a risk. She is not capable and doesn't need to be an election away from President ever again.

    I understand your point but Americans are smart enough to reject Kamala. They might falter if you put a less idiotic reptile in there, like Kristen Sinema, for example.

    They were not smart enough to reject someone who is senile. Harris belongs
    no where near being in line for President.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Pablo Gener on Fri Feb 7 07:27:48 2025
    Pablo Gener wrote to All <=-

    What I get from the US Government so far

    ** Deleting several pages of ignorant Narrative **

    So are you Alan? Or maybe the false swede Bjorn?

    We haven't heard from Dale in a long time, so maybe you are actually him.

    I thought this echo was real names only.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Fri Feb 7 06:47:44 2025
    On 07 Feb 2025, Ron L. said the following...

    ** Deleting several pages of ignorant Narrative **

    So are you Alan? Or maybe the false swede Bjorn?

    We haven't heard from Dale in a long time, so maybe you are actually him.

    I thought this echo was real names only.


    HAHAHAHA... You found him!!!

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Sat Feb 8 08:32:21 2025
    Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-

    We haven't heard from Dale in a long time, so maybe you are actually him.

    Dale passed away a while back. It was discussed here multiple times.

    Did he still vote Democrat in the last election?


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Fermin Sanchez on Sat Feb 8 08:32:21 2025
    Fermin Sanchez wrote to Pablo Gener <=-

    Harris had FOUR years time to position herself to run in the next election. Looking at Biden 4 years ago, it wouldn't have come as a
    total surprise if she'd succeeded him before then. But nothing of the
    sort happened. She appeared insecure in the last four years. I mean -
    did she ever clearly state her position to anything while she was VP?

    Wow. The delusion is strong here.

    The Ho couldn't speak at all. She couldn't clearly state her position over what flavor of ice cream she would like at Baskin-Robins. Word salad all over the place.

    She was completely incompetent for any position. No one wanted her. Not even most Democrats as shown in the Democratic Primaries. She was a DEI hire plus Biden's insurance against getting assassinated since no one wanted the Ho as President.

    In the end the Democrats need to have a long hard look in the mirror
    and ask themselves this one question: How BAD does your candidate have
    to be to lose to Trump?

    Yes, they need to have a hard look in the mirror. But you are asking the wrong question.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sat Feb 8 08:32:21 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    Dale passed away a while back. It was discussed here multiple times.

    I thought he was talking about Alan from BC

    I had Lee marked down, but not Dale. And I was just listing some of the Ignorant Elitists that have posted their drivel over this echo in recent times BT (Before Trump).

    But it looks like Mike is taking over for all of them now. Or he may be the only one who got reprogrammed in time.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sat Feb 8 07:37:46 2025
    On 08 Feb 2025, Ron L. said the following...

    But it looks like Mike is taking over for all of them now. Or he may be the only one who got reprogrammed in time.


    I think it's they/them!!!

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Feb 11 07:24:06 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I swear that the Democrats wanted Trump to win this one. Or if they
    didn't "want" him to win, they at least anticipated it. It's probably
    got something to do with the trillions of dollars that they stole
    during the Weekend at Bernie's.

    It's more likely they didn't want their voter fraud system completely exposed so they could use it in other races and at other times.

    4 years from now, our credit at the world bank will be good for another
    3 trillion for them to steal.

    Probably. My hope is that people will remember and not allow that.

    The good news is that the Democrat party will be completely destroyed by then, so they will have to infiltrate some other group. And that takes time.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Feb 13 07:47:49 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I love it! I can't wait to see the Department of Education dismantled.
    It can't happen fast enough.

    Ya, the Dept of Indoctrination was certainly a mistake. Was that Carter who pushed that? He and Biden are in a tight race for the title of "Worst President Ever."

    Nah, the Republican sheeple love the committee chairman. Nobody's complaining besides me.

    Remind the sheeple of the definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different outcomes.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Feb 12 07:25:45 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Yes, messing around while Trump is the nominee seems like a bad idea, since he's such a fighter. They can try their crap again when they have some jackass like Lindsey Graham on the ballot. Timing is everything
    for slithering reptilians.

    And they play the long game. Losing in the short term to gain in the long term.

    But that's why they fear Trump so much: He's going to tear down all the stuff that they've put in place, slowly, over decades. And it will take decades to rebuild it.

    They are making pretty "good" progress with infiltrating the Republican party. The rino committee chairman in my country installed 2 Democrat judges, a Democrat state assembly member, a Democrat state senator, and
    a Democrat county executive. Then he had the audacity to invite all the registered Republicans over to the HQ to "celebrate Trump's victory."

    Sounds like someone who won't be there next term.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Wed Feb 12 05:58:32 2025
    some jackass like Lindsey Graham on the ballot. Timing is everything for slithering reptilians.

    And they play the long game. Losing in the short term to gain in the
    long term.

    But that's why they fear Trump so much: He's going to tear down all the stuff that they've put in place, slowly, over decades. And it will take decades to rebuild it.

    I love it! I can't wait to see the Department of Education dismantled. It can't happen fast enough.

    They are making pretty "good" progress with infiltrating the Republic party. The rino committee chairman in my country installed 2 Democrat judges, a Democrat state assembly member, a Democrat state senator, a a Democrat county executive. Then he had the audacity to invite all t registered Republicans over to the HQ to "celebrate Trump's victory."

    Sounds like someone who won't be there next term.

    Nah, the Republican sheeple love the committee chairman. Nobody's complaining besides me.

    https://tinyurl.com/mv7y46pp

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Feb 15 08:13:08 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Since there was no congressional oversight, doesn't that mean that Zelenski is/was free to spend it on whatever he wants, and that he
    doesn't have to provide a single receipt for anything?

    Of course, but I think Z-ski saying that Ukraine got less than half of what
    the Elitists say that they sent, that he may get a favorable treatment
    from the Trump Admin.

    Why does it feel that I'm in a Dune novel? Plans within plan within plans.

    It will be great to find out what the money was spent on, but even
    better if we can make Ukraine pay it all back.

    I think we can get most of it back, if we can find where it went. Because I believe that Z-ski is correct and most of it never left the U.S. Of course, we can always seize Z-ski's assets - like his $35 million home in Florida.

    The waste is so extreme, that even the media has given up on trying to defend it.

    The thing is, it's not waste. We need to stop thinking that these people are incompetent. They aren't. The "waste" that we see is a planned money laundering system to hide where the Elitists get their money.

    I can't wait until we see an audit of these congresscritters who have incomes in the millions, but a gov't salary.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sat Feb 15 10:33:56 2025
    Since there was no congressional oversight, doesn't that mean that Zelenski is/was free to spend it on whatever he wants, and that he doesn't have to provide a single receipt for anything?

    Of course, but I think Z-ski saying that Ukraine got less than half of what the Elitists say that they sent, that he may get a favorable treatment from the Trump Admin.

    I didn't know about that story, but I googled it, and wow, there are a lot of articles about it. So that's not something that neither Biden nor congress can hide from (unless Zelenky is lying.) Either way, the lesson is let other countries support their own wars. Hopefully the thick headed community figures that out.

    I think we can get most of it back, if we can find where it went.
    Because I believe that Z-ski is correct and most of it never left the
    U.S. Of course, we can always seize Z-ski's assets - like his $35
    million home in Florida.

    That's like nothing though. I want the 175 billion back!

    The waste is so extreme, that even the media has given up on trying t defend it.

    The thing is, it's not waste. We need to stop thinking that these
    people are incompetent. They aren't. The "waste" that we see is a planned money laundering system to hide where the Elitists get their money.

    That's a good point. When we call it "waste" we're putting a flowery word in their mouths. They should say "intentionally misplaced."

    I can't wait until we see an audit of these congresscritters who have incomes in the millions, but a gov't salary.

    Someone told me a few years ago that the reason why they get paid such high salaries is to discourage them from taking bribes. But I don't think that plan was smart and it's definitely not working.

    Hopefully DOGE will determine that congress is being paid too much for the amount of work being performed, or for the amount of qualifications required of them. They don't deserve $250k per year while people of the same educational background are driving plow trucks.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Feb 16 09:33:04 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I didn't know about that story, but I googled it, and wow, there are a
    lot of articles about it. So that's not something that neither Biden
    nor congress can hide from (unless Zelenky is lying.)

    That's why Elon is focusing on the Treasury. You can hide things in bills. You can obfuscate in what you say. But if money is transferred, there's a record showing from, to and who on both ends.

    Either way, the
    lesson is let other countries support their own wars. Hopefully the
    thick headed community figures that out.

    They won't figure it out. They are too brainwashed.

    But, ya, unless there's a significant benefit to the U.S., we should stay out of other people's wars.

    After WWII, only a few countries were able to wage war. The U.S. being one of them. You could make a good argument that we were **needed** to be the protector of other countries for a time. But that time is long past.

    That's like nothing though. I want the 175 billion back!

    Like being a creditor in a bankruptsy, you only get a percentage back.

    What I would really like to see is the Elitists who played that system get punished. Like all their assets seized and have them thrown in prison for life. That might make the other Elitists think twice before doing something like this again.

    That's a good point. When we call it "waste" we're putting a flowery
    word in their mouths. They should say "intentionally misplaced."

    I'd just call it for what is is: a tax dollar laundering scheme.

    Someone told me a few years ago that the reason why they get paid such high salaries is to discourage them from taking bribes. But I don't
    think that plan was smart and it's definitely not working.

    My point is that their (albeit high) salaries don't match their lifestyles. They are living far higher than their gov't salaries allow.

    Hopefully DOGE will determine that congress is being paid too much for
    the amount of work being performed, or for the amount of qualifications required of them. They don't deserve $250k per year while people of the same educational background are driving plow trucks.

    That's pretty much true across all gov't.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sun Feb 16 08:37:30 2025
    What I would really like to see is the Elitists who played that system
    get punished. Like all their assets seized and have them thrown in
    prison for life. That might make the other Elitists think twice before doing something like this again.

    I want that too. Just taking the money away from them isn't punishment enough. That's not how we treat bank robbers, and bank robbers only stole pennies compared to what's been funneled through USAID.

    My point is that their (albeit high) salaries don't match their lifestyles. They are living far higher than their gov't salaries allow.

    I understand. Members of congress who are millionaires (or higher) need to be investigated. But the salary itself is way too much. They hardly even spend any time working. They should work as volunteers, conduct their congressional businesses at night, and they should have daytime jobs in places where they can actually work for their money (if they need any.)

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Feb 17 07:20:05 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I want that too. Just taking the money away from them isn't punishment enough. That's not how we treat bank robbers, and bank robbers only
    stole pennies compared to what's been funneled through USAID.

    That's because of how the laundering works. You put dollars in, but you only get clean pennies out. But the Elitists don't care about that because they didn't work for the dollars that they put in.

    I understand. Members of congress who are millionaires (or higher) need
    to be investigated. But the salary itself is way too much. They hardly even spend any time working.

    Even when they are "working", they aren't doing their job.

    They should work as volunteers, conduct
    their congressional businesses at night, and they should have daytime
    jobs in places where they can actually work for their money (if they
    need any.)

    When this country started, that wouldn't have been feasible. Today, however, that is certainly doable with the technology we have.


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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/1 to Ron L. on Mon Feb 17 10:03:29 2025
    Ron L. wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-

    I understand. Members of congress who are millionaires (or higher) need
    to be investigated. But the salary itself is way too much. They hardly even spend any time working.

    Even when they are "working", they aren't doing their job.

    Term limits. Campaign finance reform. Repeal Citizens United. That'll
    help clear things up, but we know what happens when people are left to
    police themselves (at the cost of the people they purport to represent)




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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Mon Feb 17 11:41:44 2025
    They should work as volunteers, conduct
    their congressional businesses at night, and they should have daytime jobs in places where they can actually work for their money (if they need any.)

    When this country started, that wouldn't have been feasible. Today, however, that is certainly doable with the technology we have.

    Let's ask Maxine Waters if that's doable. :)

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Feb 18 07:28:30 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Let's ask Maxine Waters if that's doable. :)

    She can be replaced by a very simple BASIC program. I was thinking along the lines of the old ELIZA program, but simpler than that.


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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/1 to Ron L. on Tue Feb 18 06:45:35 2025
    Ron L. wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-

    She can be replaced by a very simple BASIC program. I was thinking
    along the lines of the old ELIZA program, but simpler than that.

    You could start with a Susan Collins program.




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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Tue Feb 18 14:32:56 2025
    Let's ask Maxine Waters if that's doable. :)

    She can be replaced by a very simple BASIC program. I was thinking
    along the lines of the old ELIZA program, but simpler than that.

    Maxine Waters only has 2 functions: obstruct the government, and spend campaign money unlawfully.

    Eliza is a superior tool.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Feb 20 08:20:32 2025
    On 18 Feb 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...

    Maxine Waters only has 2 functions: obstruct the government, and spend campaign money unlawfully.


    If she keeps it up she'll soon be unemployed and she'll have to start a fans only site...

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to IB Joe on Thu Feb 20 14:29:08 2025
    Maxine Waters only has 2 functions: obstruct the government, and spen campaign money unlawfully.


    If she keeps it up she'll soon be unemployed and she'll have to start a fans only site...

    She'd at least get Alan to subscribe. :)

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Fri Feb 21 08:20:43 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-

    Maxine Waters only has 2 functions: obstruct the government, and spend campaign money unlawfully.

    If she keeps it up she'll soon be unemployed and she'll have to start a fans only site...

    That might work. She will span everyone with pictures and say "For $20/month, I'll stop."


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Feb 21 10:09:46 2025
    On 20 Feb 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...

    She'd at least get Alan to subscribe. :)



    HAHAHA... Spanish... JAJAJAJA...

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Fri Feb 21 16:20:04 2025
    On 21 Feb 2025, Ron L. said the following...

    That might work. She will span everyone with pictures and say "For $20/month, I'll stop."


    Her boobies must look like beaver tails by now... My God the horror...

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