• Re: What a lovely USA the Stable Genius left behind

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Björn Felten on Sun Aug 18 10:07:14 2024
    There's no return! How can you call it an "investment" when there's n return?

    Yup, you missed that class, that's for sure. But, generous as I am, here's another piece of education that you missed all your life.
    A good investment is a long-term project that slowly but steadily
    gives a return.

    I get what you're saying. A return on an investment can take time, but unfortunately for Harris/Biden, it's taking too much time. If we won't see it until after the Harris/Biden term is over, then they are out of luck because there's 161 million voters who will vote based on what they see and not on what's to come later.

    They don't contribute shit to the society, they only suck its blood. Those are the guys to focus on if you want to blame anyone other than yourself for your misfortune, not Kamala Harris.

    Inflation Reduction Act aside, they've ripped us off on other record-breaking cash-grabs too like Build Back Better. They promised to replace all the lead water pipes in America, and they are already patting themselves on the back even though we're still drinking lead in most of the small cities. It never got done, and they can't expect us to believe that it's still on some contractor's to-do list.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Aug 19 00:34:48 2024
    Aaron Thomas -> Björn Felten skrev 2024-08-18 18:07:
    Inflation Reduction Act aside, they've ripped us off on other record-breaking cash-grabs too like Build Back Better.

    Why "aside"? You seem to understand now how it actually has been beneficial to everyone.

    What you obviously don't know is that the IRA was only one part of the BBB act. If the BBB in its original form had passed, all the other great B-H acts would have started the incredible restoration of the ruins, that Your Lord left behind, years earlier.

    As for wasting *YOUR* money, if you really are a taxpayer, maybe you should know that Your Lord's $1.9T tax cut cost every single one of the 85M (yearly average) US taxpayers (calculator mode... 1900/85...) a whopping $22,353. How's that for stealing taxpayers' money?



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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Björn Felten on Sun Aug 18 20:08:04 2024
    Inflation Reduction Act aside, they've ripped us off on other record-breaking cash-grabs too like Build Back Better.

    Why "aside"? You seem to understand now how it actually has been beneficial to everyone.

    No, I'm just taking your word for it that "it's an investment and the return may take a long time, but it will come."

    What you obviously don't know is that the IRA was only one part of
    the BBB act. If the BBB in its original form had passed, all the other great B-H acts would have started the incredible restoration of the
    ruins, that Your Lord left behind, years earlier.

    I'm not concerned about the IRA loophole, I'm concerned about where is all the infrastructure that was promised? That stuff is taking too long. We can't wait for a return that takes longer than 4 years to materialize because our country is suffering >right now.<

    As for wasting *YOUR* money, if you really are a taxpayer, maybe you should know that Your Lord's $1.9T tax cut cost every single one of the 85M (yearly average) US taxpayers (calculator mode... 1900/85...) a whopping $22,353. How's that for stealing taxpayers' money?

    It takes money to make money. Without our corporations, we'd be a third world country. Our corporations are leaving in droves. And that's something that hits home immediately; it doesn't take beyond 4 years to feel it. Tax cuts for corporations keep jobs in America, which boosts our economy and in some cases boosts GDP.

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  • From Ken Nischan@1:275/89 to Björn Felten on Mon Aug 19 14:16:23 2024
    Re: $8 bag of chips
    By: Björn Felten to Ken Nischan on Sat Aug 17 2024 01:10 am

    I definitely don't see groceries going down in price.

    I hope that not you, too, are blaming Kamala for this.

    Oh no, I didn't mean it that way. Economics is a huge thing with tons of moving parts. I think people give presidents way too much credit/blame for fluctuations.
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to KEN NISCHAN on Tue Aug 20 08:32:00 2024
    I definitely don't see groceries going down in price.

    I hope that not you, too, are blaming Kamala for this.

    Oh no, I didn't mean it that way. Economics is a huge thing with tons of moving parts. I think people give presidents way too much credit/blame for fluctuations.

    Well, the problem here is that, when things are good, politicians take that credit. They try to deflect it when things are not good.

    Another way to look at it... if you read here long enough, you will see
    that most of the people who don't want Kamala, Biden, or Democrats blamed
    for inflation or the economy are very quick to want to blame Trump or the Republicans for same. They will also be very quick to claim the economy
    really isn't as bad and that it is Biden who should be thanked for it.

    I learned at a young age from a Democrat parent that whoever the highest ranking Republican was, they were going to get blamed for whatever. So,
    when Reagan was President, it was his fault. When Clinton was President,
    it was probably Mitch McConnell's fault (or Newt or whoever).

    At the time, the state we lived in was near fully Democrat controlled, as
    was the city we lived in (that city still is). It was really funny to watch them try to place fault when it came to state and local issues as there were
    no "high ranking Republicans" to blame it on. So they'd usually shift the discussion over to a national issue so they could blame their usual
    suspects.


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