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    From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to alexander koryagin on Sun Mar 13 20:42:43 2022
    When Ukrainian side has shelled Donetsk
    nobody can guarantee that the shells will not drop on the civilians.

    When Russia has shelled civilian targets in Ukraine, it can be guaranteed that the shells will kill Russians living there, as well as their Ukrainian friends living nearby.

    That's the problem with systematically target civilians, and why the civilized world will never tolerate war crimes like what Mad Vlad and his ilk are committing. Rest assured, there will be dire consequences...

    BTW, what's the kill score so far?

    Children living in Ukraine: 280
    Children living in Russia: 0

    Correct me if I'm wrong.



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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Sun Mar 13 23:37:57 2022
    Free speech means you can lie but lies not ultimate speech.

    Just remember, if we don't have free speech there's no way to spot the idiots...



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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5075/128.130 to Bj?rn Felten on Mon Mar 14 09:56:27 2022
    Hi, Bj?rn Felten!
    I read your message from 13.03.2022 22:42

    BF> BTW, what's the kill score so far?
    BF> Children living in Ukraine: 280
    BF> Children living in Russia: 0

    Well how many children were in those 14 thousand killed in Donbass by Ukrainian troops? Thousands probably. What is going on is just a logical continuation of the war started in 2014. The main blame should be put on
    those who didn't want to make peace for these 8 years. They probably
    hoped to cut the rebels throats and get bingo.

    What has changed? Well, for 8 years has suffered those who lived in
    Donbass. Now many Ukrainians themselves feel the same horror. Probably
    it makes to understand what horror they did in Donbass.

    PS: And I repeat again and again, I consider Putin's operation as crazy
    and unclever. But I just say to you again -- try not dissolve the reason
    of the conflict in Ukraine in the person of Putin.

    Bye, Bj?rn!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to alexander koryagin on Mon Mar 14 10:40:55 2022
    Well how many children were in those 14 thousand killed in Donbass by Ukrainian troops? Thousands probably.

    WOW! Do you really believe that?



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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5075/128.130 to Bj?rn Felten on Mon Mar 14 13:27:48 2022
    Hi, Bj?rn Felten!
    I read your message from 14.03.2022 12:40

    ak>> Well how many children were in those 14 thousand killed in
    ak>> Donbass by Ukrainian troops? Thousands probably.
    BF> WOW! Do you really believe that?

    Those people were killed as a rule in discriminate bombardments and the
    number of 14 thousand is accepted in the UN documents. So why you don't believe that a good part of these victims were children?

    Also in this way you can estimate how many children had been killed by
    the US and NATO during invasions in Iraq (by ridiculously false
    propaganda ground), Afghanistan, Yugoslavia.... What's wrong with it?

    Bye, Bj?rn!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From Dmitry Protasoff@2:5001/100.1 to alexander koryagin on Mon Mar 14 16:57:46 2022
    Hello, alexander!

    Monday March 14 2022 09:56, you wrote to Bj?rn Felten:

    logical continuation of the war started in 2014. The main blame should
    be put on those who didn't want to make peace for these 8 years. They

    Russia? It was our project, we've sent military aid and people there.
    DNR/LNR were puppet states.

    What has changed? Well, for 8 years has suffered those who lived in Donbass. Now many Ukrainians themselves feel the same horror. Probably
    it makes to understand what horror they did in Donbass.

    So Russian cities should be bombed because our participation in war in Syria? Ukraine had military conflict with Russia as one of the players on it's territory.

    Without Russian's military help the whole DNR/LNR project was nothing.

    Best regards,
    dp.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to alexander koryagin on Mon Mar 14 18:23:31 2022
    So why you don't
    believe that a good part of these victims were children?

    I don't believe that Ukrainians would shell their own citizens. Has the Ministry of Truth in Kremlin told you who provided those alleged shelling weapons to the Ukrainian military. eBay perhaps? Or maybe it is all a DumbAss News hoax?



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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5075/128.130 to Dmitry Protasoff on Tue Mar 15 09:27:49 2022
    Hi, Dmitry Protasoff!
    I read your message from 14.03.2022 16:57

    ak>> logical continuation of the war started in 2014. The main blame
    ak>> should be put on those who didn't want to make peace for these 8
    ak>> years. They

    DP> Russia? It was our project, we've sent military aid and people
    DP> there. DNR/LNR were puppet states.

    Ukraine authority has told many times that the autonomy of Donbass and
    amnesty for rebels will never be despite these things are in the Minsk agreements. That's why the conflict has lasted so long.

    ak>> What has changed? Well, for 8 years has suffered those who lived
    ak>> in Donbass. Now many Ukrainians themselves feel the same horror.
    ak>> Probably it makes to understand what horror they did in Donbass.

    DP> So Russian cities should be bombed because our participation in war
    DP> in Syria? Ukraine had military conflict with Russia as one of the
    DP> players on it's territory.

    You should understand a simple thing, that there are countries which can
    be bombed -- like Iraq, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan etc, but there are
    countries which cannot be bombed because of their nuclear umbrella. And
    in making your offensive policy you need be cautious in relations with
    the later. It is natural as human relations. If you see a strong man you
    will be polite with him. Correct? ;)

    DP> Without Russian's military help the whole DNR/LNR project was
    DP> nothing.

    Ukraine is doomed as a whole country if Ukrainan nationalists continue
    their aggressive ukrainization.

    Bye, Dmitry!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5075/128.130 to Bj?rn Felten on Tue Mar 15 09:47:00 2022
    Hi, Bj?rn Felten!
    I read your message from 14.03.2022 20:23

    ak>> So why you don't
    ak>> believe that a good part of these victims were children?
    BF> I don't believe that Ukrainians would shell their own
    BF> citizens. Has the Ministry of Truth in Kremlin told you who
    BF> provided those alleged shelling weapons to the Ukrainian
    BF> military. eBay perhaps? Or maybe it is all a DumbAss News hoax?
    BF> ..

    Especially for you I repeat URL

    https://ru.euronews.com/2022/03/14/ukraine-topstory-monday-update

    Yesterday's shelling of Donetsk with a very powerful missle.


    Bye, Bj?rn!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From Dmitry Protasoff@2:5001/100.1 to alexander koryagin on Tue Mar 15 10:57:32 2022
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    Hello, alexander!


    Tuesday March 15 2022 09:27, you wrote to me:
    Russia? It was our project, we've sent military aid and people
    there. DNR/LNR were puppet states.

    Ukraine authority has told many times that the autonomy of Donbass and
    amnesty for rebels will never be despite these things are in the
    Minsk agreements. That's why the conflict has lasted so long.

    Conflict lasted so long because Putin wanted it to exists.
    Even people who were sent from Russia to DNR/LNR in 2014 to start war they are famous and well known.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Girkin

    So Russian cities should be bombed because our participation in
    war in Syria? Ukraine had military conflict with Russia as one
    of the players on it's territory.

    You should understand a simple thing, that there are countries which
    can be bombed -- like Iraq, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan etc, but there are

    So you trying to tell me that Putin decided to cosplay USA but forgot to buy enough drugs for pharmacies? :)

    countries which cannot be bombed because of their nuclear umbrella.

    We had military conflicts between India and Pakistan, they both had nuclear weapons.

    And in making your offensive policy you need be cautious in relations
    with the later. It is natural as human relations. If you see a strong
    man you will be polite with him. Correct? ;)

    But you don't have to give him money. That's why Russia now is in such deep shit.

    Without Russian's military help the whole DNR/LNR project was
    nothing.

    Ukraine is doomed as a whole country if Ukrainan nationalists continue
    their aggressive ukrainization.

    They don't have any nationalists parties in Parlament if you don't know.
    So they don't have any political power.

    Try to compare that with Putin's support to multiple far-right parties in Europe. We even pay them and invite to Russian events.
    Or is it "another story"? :)

    Best regards,
    dp.

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5075/128.130 to Dmitry Protasoff on Wed Mar 16 09:42:27 2022
    Hi, Dmitry Protasoff!
    I read your message from 15.03.2022 10:57

    ak>> countries which cannot be bombed because of their nuclear
    ak>> umbrella.
    DP> We had military conflicts between India and Pakistan, they both
    DP> had nuclear weapons.

    Happily there was a draw then. There were not reasons to use it.

    Bye, Dmitry!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From Dmitry Protasoff@2:5001/100.1 to alexander koryagin on Thu Mar 17 01:31:34 2022
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    Hello, alexander!

    Wednesday March 16 2022 09:42, you wrote to me:

    We had military conflicts between India and Pakistan, they both
    had nuclear weapons.

    Happily there was a draw then. There were not reasons to use it.

    So you are agree that you were not right? :)

    Best regards,
    dp.

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5075/128.130 to Dmitry Protasoff on Thu Mar 17 08:57:11 2022
    Hi, Dmitry Protasoff!
    I read your message from 17.03.2022 01:31

    DP>>> We had military conflicts between India and Pakistan,
    DP>>> they both had nuclear weapons.
    ak>> Happily there was a draw then. There were not reasons to
    ak>> use it.
    DP> So you are agree that you were not right? :)

    Russia has no reason to use nukes unless struck heavily. The same was
    for India and Pakistan. That war had completed with the score 2:2. :-)

    Bye, Dmitry!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From Dmitry Protasoff@2:5001/100.1 to alexander koryagin on Fri Mar 18 00:13:48 2022
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    Hello, alexander!

    Thursday March 17 2022 08:57, you wrote to me:

    We had military conflicts between India and Pakistan,
    they both had nuclear weapons.
    Happily there was a draw then. There were not reasons to
    use it.
    So you are agree that you were not right? :)

    Russia has no reason to use nukes unless struck heavily. The same was

    You mean - Putin? Because Russia is not Putin. And he is crazy enough.



    Best regards,
    dp.

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5075/128.130 to Dmitry Protasoff on Fri Mar 18 09:20:28 2022
    Hi, Dmitry Protasoff!
    I read your message from 18.03.2022 00:13

    DP>>>>> We had military conflicts between India and
    DP>>>>> Pakistan, they both had nuclear weapons.
    ak>>>> Happily there was a draw then. There were not
    ak>>>> reasons to use it.
    DP>>> So you are agree that you were not right?:)
    ak>> Russia has no reason to use nukes unless struck heavily.
    ak>> The same was
    DP> You mean - Putin? Because Russia is not Putin. And he is crazy
    DP> enough.

    Yes, Putin.

    Bye, Dmitry!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From Dmitry Protasoff@2:5001/100.1 to alexander koryagin on Sun Mar 20 00:18:26 2022
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    Hello, alexander!

    Friday March 18 2022 09:20, you wrote to me:

    You mean - Putin? Because Russia is not Putin. And he is crazy
    enough.

    Yes, Putin.

    Russia is not Putin. Putin will die and will drink some vodka with our friends from Ukraine after his death :)

    Best regards,
    dp.

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