• Re: move to Canada they s

    From Ennev@99:99/1 to Dr. What on Mon Feb 1 08:05:09 2021
    On 2021-01-31 10:38 a.m., Dr. What wrote:

    Not in the U.S. Gov't officials have legal immunity for their decisions. Bureaucrats in agencies
    like the EPA, for example, are unelected and unappointed. It's near impossible
    to fire them. They are more
    likely to die or retire than be fired.

    Then you can really call that a democracy :-(

    Make me think of EU where is more and more ruled and regulated by mostly
    non elected people that will dictate with theirs "directive" law that
    need to be adopted by respective EU countries.

    How long will this last? Look that stunt this weekend with UK. OH we
    have a deal but we'll suspend it. Already sound like the big guys
    kicking the small ones.

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  • From Ennev@99:99/1 to Dr. What on Mon Feb 1 08:06:25 2021
    On 2021-01-31 10:39 a.m., Dr. What wrote:

    One of the things I already pointed out was the price controls in other countries - which will make
    certain drugs and procedures cost less there, but will make it more expensive in countries without
    price controls.

    Most of the time it's for generic medication out of patent.

    In a way this system has been going on for years in many countries, it
    look sustainable.

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Ennev on Mon Feb 1 17:07:31 2021
    Hi Ennev,

    On 2021-02-01 08:05:09, you wrote to Dr. What:

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  • From Dr. What@99:99/1 to Ennev on Tue Feb 2 08:44:00 2021
    Ennev wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Not in the U.S. Gov't officials have legal immunity for their decisions. Bureaucrats in agencies
    like the EPA, for example, are unelected and unappointed. It's near impossible
    to fire them. They are more
    likely to die or retire than be fired.

    Then you can really call that a democracy :-(

    Ya, not even close to a democracy.

    What's happened over many decades is that more and more of the rule making power has moved to the bureaucracy. Then the legislature (unconstitutionally) ceded authority to the bureaucracy (You might remember the "we have to pass
    the law before we can know what's in it" from Pelosi.).

    So the legislature basically passes a law that says "Agency X has the authority to make the rules governing Y." So a bunch of unelected, unaccountable
    morons get to, effectively, make law.

    And the Supreme Court has a policy of defering to the "experts" (supposedly
    the people in said bureaucracy).

    Make me think of EU where is more and more ruled and regulated by
    mostly non elected people that will dictate with theirs "directive" law that need to be adopted by respective EU countries.

    I thought that was the main reason the UK wanted out of the EU.

    How long will this last? Look that stunt this weekend with UK. OH we
    have a deal but we'll suspend it. Already sound like the big guys
    kicking the small ones.

    That's what happens at the beginning. But it always ends poorly. Usually
    for everyone.


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  • From Dr. What@99:99/1 to Ennev on Tue Feb 2 08:47:00 2021
    Ennev wrote to Dr. What <=-

    One of the things I already pointed out was the price controls in other countries - which will make
    certain drugs and procedures cost less there, but will make it more
    expensive
    in countries without
    price controls.

    Most of the time it's for generic medication out of patent.

    But the root problem is that if a company makes a medicine, and it costs $5/pill, if a country has a price control on that so that it can only be
    sold there for $2/pill.

    The company who makes the medicine has a choice:
    1. Don't sell it in that country.
    2. Sell it for $2/pill in that country, but sell it for $8/pill in countries without price controls.

    In a way this system has been going on for years in many countries, it look sustainable.

    That's short term think.


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  • From Ennev@99:99/1 to Dr. What on Tue Feb 2 13:00:19 2021
    On 2021-02-02 8:44 a.m., Dr. What wrote:

    En> Make me think of EU where is more and more ruled and regulated by
    En> mostly non elected people that will dictate with theirs "directive" law
    En> that need to be adopted by respective EU countries.

    I thought that was the main reason the UK wanted out of the EU.

    It was, and I surprised that others member of the union are OK with that (directives from above).

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  • From Tom Smith@1:226/70 to Ennev on Thu Apr 7 19:14:38 2022
    Re: Re: move to Canada they s
    By: Ennev to Dr. What on Tue Feb 02 2021 01:00 pm

    Don't EU countries elect their EU representatives? I know you'd get representatives from other countries you didn't vote for, but that's true in most legistlatures too.
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