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    From Dave Drum@1:396/45 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Oct 20 05:52:34 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I take the e-edition of the daily. And they mail out a collection of grocery adverts, coupon flyers, etc. I get the grocery ad delivered to
    my in-box for all of the stores in town. The only flyer I get any use
    from is the Dollar Gererous. They often have really good deals on
    stuff I can (and do) use.

    Wish we got a packet of coupons, etc. They used to distribute one but Covid put an end to that.

    Someone should pull their coat and tell them the panmdemic is officially
    over. Bv)=

    I get, also, around the first of every month a packet put out by an
    outfit called "Mail South" with all manner of coupons and specials
    that you didn't know your couldn't live without. Bv)= When we had
    the satellite store we used to do a flyer every three months. And we
    got a fair amount of business from that.

    We've been getting greeting cards from them the past few years.

    From the dollar store? Never had anything from them in the mail.
    Except the advertising flyers that are a part of the newspaper's
    mailing. But, certainly, nothing "personalized".

    No, we're buying the cards. (G)

    Oh. OK. It all becomes clear now.

    Or use a pot that's wide/deep enough to submerge the sticks in one go.
    I still do the "pan length" as it's easier to wind it onto my fork at table. But, That's me.

    At least you don't cut it into 1" or less pieces. (G)

    Only pasta I do in that size range is elbow macaroni, rosemarina, cous cous, etc.

    My MIL treated us (3 kids, 3 spouses) to dinner last night at an
    Italian place, only one person didn't leave with a "leftovers" box. I
    had veal and eggplant parm with a side of penne pasta & marinara sauce. The size of the piece of veal was almost the whole dinner plate, with 2 roughly 6" rounds of eggplant on top of it. Penne pasta was good, maybe about a cup and a half (cooked) with a good amount of marinara. Starter was a salad so I only ate about 1/3 of my entree. Steve had Italian jambalya over liguini and a salad; I think he took about half of his entree home.

    Sound like they are philosophically on board with my recently closed
    Sweet Basil cafe. I always told people "If you're going there - go HUNGRY". One of the few places I ever had to get a "go box" to bring
    home my leftovers. Even if I showed up ravenous.

    I get a "to go" most every time I eat out now, and usually plan on
    eating only half (or less) of my entree, especially if I start with a salad.

    I'm mostly a member of the "clean plate club"

    Title: Casablanca Chicken Couscous
    Categories: Poutry, Pasta, Fruits, Dairy, Vegetables
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I was hesitant to serve a dish using cous cous to my brother since
    he's had this "thing" abou rice ever since his tour in Vietnam. But,
    he knows the difference and enjoyed it. I keep hoping he'll mellow out
    of it like Steve did with pork. But that hope is dwindling. Bv)=

    Don't hold your breath waiting. (G)

    I present this recipe as written - but with the question "How can a
    bird be both free range AND corn fed"?

    Free range during the warm parts of the year, corn fed in the colder parts. (G) More likely was supposed to be "free range OR corn fed".

    My personal opinion is that free range means just that. They'd have
    been better off using "cage free". When I kept chickens the girls were cage free and had a trough for "chicken feed" as well as scratching in
    the pen for bugs and seeds, etc. And the fence was more to keep the predators out than to keep the chooks in.

    We never kept any, just raised cats & dogs. (G)

    We had cats and dogs. And a 3-legged raccoon. My grandfather trapped
    the raccoon in the sweet corn patch. It was strange, he had railed over
    "those 'coons stealiong his my corn" for so long then going to the corn
    to bring fresh sweet corn back for Cappy to munch on.

    I asked him about it and he said "That was stealing. This is giving." Bv)=

    My friens Les' send-off (funeral) is today. I made this for the after
    funeral meal at Temple Israel. But then I realised that I had meat and
    dairy in the same dish do it wasn't kosher. Dennis and I will eat well
    for a couple of days.

    MMMMM---- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Classic, Savory Cottage Pie
    Categories: Beef, Potatoes, Vegetables, Wine, Herbs
    Yield: 8 servings

    MMMMM---------------------MASHED POTATOES----------------------------
    3 1/2 lb (1.6kg) russet potatoes;
    - peeled, in 1" pieces
    Salt
    6 tb (85g) unsalted butter; in
    - cubes

    MMMMM------------------------MEAT SAUCE------------------------------
    1 1/2 c (360mL) chicken stock
    1/2 oz (2 env)unflavored gelatin
    2 tb (30mL) oil
    2 1/2 lb (1kg) ground beef
    1 lg Yellow onion; diced
    3 md Carrots; diced
    2 Ribs celery; diced
    2 cl Garlic; minced
    2 tb (30mL) tomato paste
    1 c (240mL) dry red wine
    2 Sprigs thyme
    1 Bay leaf
    1 tb (15mL) Worcestershire sauce
    1 ts (5mL) Marmite (opt)
    2 tb (15g) A-P flour
    8 oz (225g) frozen peas
    Salt & fresh ground pepper

    MMMMM-----------------------TO ASSEMBLE------------------------------
    1 1/2 c (360mL) heavy cream
    Grated Parmigiano-Reggiano
    - cheese; for topping

    FOR THE MASHED POTATOES: Set diced potatoes in a colander and rinse
    under cold water until water runs clear. Transfer to a large saucepan
    and cover with cold water by at least 2". Season water with salt until
    almost as salty as the sea. Bring water to a boil over high heat, then
    reduce heat to medium-low and simmer until a knife easily pierces
    potatoes with no resistance, 10 to 15 minutes. Drain potatoes in
    colander, then rinse with hot running water for 30 seconds. Transfer
    potatoes to a large bowl.

    Using a potato masher, food mill, or ricer, mash potatoes with butter.
    Press surface smooth, then press plastic wrap directly against surface
    to prevent a skin from forming. Set aside until ready to assemble.

    MEANWHILE, FOR THE MEAT SAUCE: Place stock in a 2-cup liquid measuring
    cup, sprinkle with gelatin, and set aside.

    Heat oil in a large Dutch oven over high heat until shimmering. Add
    half of ground meat and cook, stirring and scraping bottom of pot,
    until well browned, 6 to 8 minutes; use a potato masher or large whisk
    to break up meat. Add remaining meat and cook, breaking up with masher
    or whisk, until reduced to small bits, about 3 minutes; lower heat as
    necessary to prevent scorching. If meat has rendered an excessive
    amount of fat, use a metal spoon to ladle most of it out, leaving just
    a few tablespoons in the pot. Add onion, carrots, celery, and garlic
    and cook, stirring and scraping bottom of pot, until just beginning to
    soften slightly, about 4 minutes.

    Add tomato paste and cook over medium heat, stirring, for 1 minute.
    Add red wine and bring to a simmer over high heat. Cook, scraping up
    any browned bits, until almost fully evaporated. Add reserved chicken
    stock, thyme, bay leaf, Worcestershire, and Marmite, if using.
    Sprinkle flour over ground meat in pot, then stir in. Bring to a
    simmer, then reduce heat to low and simmer until sauce is reduced and
    thick, about 20 minutes. Discard thyme sprigs and bay leaf. Stir in
    peas and season with salt and pepper.

    TO ASSEMBLE AND BAKE: Adjust oven rack to center position and set oven
    to 425ºF/218ºC. Before assembling, heat cream in a large saucepan
    until simmering. Add potatoes and stir gently until completely
    incorporated. Season with salt and pepper. Potatoes are now ready for
    assembly.

    Set a 9" by 13" baking dish on a foil-lined rimmed baking sheet. Add
    meat sauce, being careful not to fill more than halfway. (You might
    not need all of the sauce, depending on the exact size of your baking
    dish.) Top with mashed potatoes, spreading them with a spatula to
    cover surface completely. Using spatula, create a dappled pattern on
    top of potatoes. Sprinkle with grated parmesan cheese, if using.

    Transfer to oven and bake until top is browned and casserole is fully
    heated through, about 20 minutes. For deeper browning, place casserole
    on a rack set about 6" under a hot broiler for the last few moments of
    cooking. (Monitor closely to prevent potatoes from burning.)

    Let stand 15 to 20 minutes before serving.

    Serves 8

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.seriouseats.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Oct 21 13:35:13 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Wish we got a packet of coupons, etc. They used to distribute one but Covid put an end to that.

    Someone should pull their coat and tell them the panmdemic is
    officially over. Bv)=

    Doubt they'll ever go back to that because they're pushing so much
    digital access now.


    I get, also, around the first of every month a packet put out by an
    outfit called "Mail South" with all manner of coupons and specials
    that you didn't know your couldn't live without. Bv)= When we had
    the satellite store we used to do a flyer every three months. And we
    got a fair amount of business from that.

    We get a couple of booklets every month with coupons for mostly
    home/auto repair/improvement but s few restaurants do advertise also.
    Usually ones we're not interested in for one reason or other.

    We've been getting greeting cards from them the past few years.

    From the dollar store? Never had anything from them in the mail.
    Except the advertising flyers that are a part of the newspaper's
    mailing. But, certainly, nothing "personalized".

    No, we're buying the cards. (G)

    Oh. OK. It all becomes clear now.

    Crazy language. (G)


    Or use a pot that's wide/deep enough to submerge the sticks in one go.
    I still do the "pan length" as it's easier to wind it onto my fork at table. But, That's me.

    At least you don't cut it into 1" or less pieces. (G)

    Only pasta I do in that size range is elbow macaroni, rosemarina, cous cous, etc.

    My MIL treated us (3 kids, 3 spouses) to dinner last night at an
    Italian place, only one person didn't leave with a "leftovers" box. I
    had veal and eggplant parm with a side of penne pasta & marinara sauce. The size of the piece of veal was almost the whole dinner plate, with 2 roughly 6" rounds of eggplant on top of it. Penne pasta was good, maybe about a cup and a half (cooked) with a good amount of marinara. Starter was a salad so I only ate about 1/3 of my entree. Steve had Italian jambalya over liguini and a salad; I think he took about half of his entree home.

    Sound like they are philosophically on board with my recently closed
    Sweet Basil cafe. I always told people "If you're going there - go HUNGRY". One of the few places I ever had to get a "go box" to bring
    home my leftovers. Even if I showed up ravenous.

    I get a "to go" most every time I eat out now, and usually plan on
    eating only half (or less) of my entree, especially if I start with a salad.

    I'm mostly a member of the "clean plate club"

    I just don't have the appetite I did when I was younger. Doesn't take as
    much to fill me up and since I'm not running after little ones, don't
    need as many calories to burn off.


    Title: Casablanca Chicken Couscous
    Categories: Poutry, Pasta, Fruits, Dairy, Vegetables
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I was hesitant to serve a dish using cous cous to my brother since
    he's had this "thing" abou rice ever since his tour in Vietnam. But,
    he knows the difference and enjoyed it. I keep hoping he'll mellow out
    of it like Steve did with pork. But that hope is dwindling. Bv)=

    Don't hold your breath waiting. (G)

    I present this recipe as written - but with the question "How can a
    bird be both free range AND corn fed"?

    Free range during the warm parts of the year, corn fed in the colder parts. (G) More likely was supposed to be "free range OR corn fed".

    My personal opinion is that free range means just that. They'd have
    been better off using "cage free". When I kept chickens the girls were cage free and had a trough for "chicken feed" as well as scratching in
    the pen for bugs and seeds, etc. And the fence was more to keep the predators out than to keep the chooks in.

    Sounds like they were thinking cage free but just didn't remember the
    proper term.


    We never kept any, just raised cats & dogs. (G)

    We had cats and dogs. And a 3-legged raccoon. My grandfather trapped
    the raccoon in the sweet corn patch. It was strange, he had railed
    over "those 'coons stealiong his my corn" for so long then going to
    the corn to bring fresh sweet corn back for Cappy to munch on.

    I asked him about it and he said "That was stealing. This is giving."
    Bv)=

    Now that's funny--to quote a former member of the echo.


    My friens Les' send-off (funeral) is today. I made this for the after funeral meal at Temple Israel. But then I realised that I had meat and dairy in the same dish do it wasn't kosher. Dennis and I will eat well
    for a couple of days.


    Title: Classic, Savory Cottage Pie
    Categories: Beef, Potatoes, Vegetables, Wine, Herbs
    Yield: 8 servings

    OOPS! I know you will enjoy it but you will be thinking about Les as you
    eat it.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Oct 23 05:25:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Wish we got a packet of coupons, etc. They used to distribute
    one but Covid put an end to that.

    Someone should pull their coat and tell them the panmdemic is
    officially over. Bv)=

    Doubt they'll ever go back to that because they're pushing so much
    digital access now.

    Depends on which side of the ledger shows the greater profit. I find
    it hard to follow all the money grubbing like it's a contest. As long
    as I have enough sheckels to take care of me and mine that's all I need,
    want, or desire.

    I get, also, around the first of every month a packet put out by an
    outfit called "Mail South" with all manner of coupons and specials
    that you didn't know your couldn't live without. Bv)= When we had
    the satellite store we used to do a flyer every three months. And we
    got a fair amount of business from that.

    We get a couple of booklets every month with coupons for mostly
    home/auto repair/improvement but s few restaurants do advertise also. Usually ones we're not interested in for one reason or other.

    We've been getting greeting cards from them the past few years.

    From the dollar store? Never had anything from them in the mail.
    Except the advertising flyers that are a part of the newspaper's
    mailing. But, certainly, nothing "personalized".

    No, we're buying the cards. (G)

    Oh. OK. It all becomes clear now.

    Crazy language. (G)

    8<----- SNIP ----->8

    I get a "to go" most every time I eat out now, and usually plan on
    eating only half (or less) of my entree, especially if I start with a salad.

    I'm mostly a member of the "clean plate club"

    I just don't have the appetite I did when I was younger. Doesn't take
    as much to fill me up and since I'm not running after little ones,
    don't need as many calories to burn off.

    I still have the appetite. But, I find that my "eyes are bigger than my stomach" more often than not. These days I eat a hearty breakfast and a
    seconf meal later in the day. Living basically single I find that a pre made/frozen entree like "Healty Choice" or similat satisfies my hunger
    without carb-loading me. Most of their entrees are in the 12 - 13 ounce
    range.

    8<---- AGAIN ----->8

    Sounds like they were thinking cage free but just didn't remember the proper term.

    We never kept any, just raised cats & dogs. (G)

    We had cats and dogs. And a 3-legged raccoon. My grandfather trapped
    the raccoon in the sweet corn patch. It was strange, he had railed
    over "those 'coons stealiong his my corn" for so long then going to
    the corn to bring fresh sweet corn back for Cappy to munch on.

    I asked him about it and he said "That was stealing. This is giving."
    Bv)=

    Now that's funny--to quote a former member of the echo.

    My friens Les' send-off (funeral) is today. I made this for the after funeral meal at Temple Israel. But then I realised that I had meat and dairy in the same dish do it wasn't kosher. Dennis and I will eat well
    for a couple of days.

    Title: Classic, Savory Cottage Pie
    Categories: Beef, Potatoes, Vegetables, Wine, Herbs
    Yield: 8 servings

    OOPS! I know you will enjoy it but you will be thinking about Les as
    you eat it.

    True, that. And Janis Kracht who also passed recently (per Shawm's e-mail)

    Another one that's not Kosher but sure does look good.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Boyar Funeral Zharkoye
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Dairy, Herbs
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1/2 lb Beef
    5 Potatoes
    1 lg Onion
    2 tb Butter
    1 lg Carrot
    1 Parsley root
    1 Celery root
    2 cl Garlic
    1 tb Sour cream
    2 tb Chopped dill & parsley
    Salt & ground pepper

    Peel potatoes, wash, cut into cubes and fry in butter
    until light golden. Slice onion and fry in butter until
    golden. Cut carrot into small cubes and fry in butter.

    Cube beef and fry in butter until light brown. In a
    ceramic pot, put beef, potatoes, onion, carrot, roots,
    garlic, season with salt and pepper and pour over a
    little broth.

    Stew in the oven on average heat for 30 minutes. 10
    minutes before, add sour cream and sprinkle with green.

    Serve Zharkoye with salad from fresh vegetables,
    pickles, sauerkraut and green.

    Source: Olga Timokhina

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.ruscuisine.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Oct 23 15:49:00 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Someone should pull their coat and tell them the panmdemic is
    officially over. Bv)=

    Doubt they'll ever go back to that because they're pushing so much
    digital access now.

    Depends on which side of the ledger shows the greater profit. I find
    it hard to follow all the money grubbing like it's a contest. As long
    as I have enough sheckels to take care of me and mine that's all I
    need, want, or desire.

    Echos of Michael Loo--he used to say that he figured his money and life
    would end at about the same time.


    8<----- SNIP ----->8

    I get a "to go" most every time I eat out now, and usually plan on
    eating only half (or less) of my entree, especially if I start with a salad.

    I'm mostly a member of the "clean plate club"

    I just don't have the appetite I did when I was younger. Doesn't take
    as much to fill me up and since I'm not running after little ones,
    don't need as many calories to burn off.

    I still have the appetite. But, I find that my "eyes are bigger than
    my stomach" more often than not. These days I eat a hearty breakfast
    and a seconf meal later in the day. Living basically single I find
    that a pre made/frozen entree like "Healty Choice" or similat
    satisfies my hunger
    without carb-loading me. Most of their entrees are in the 12 - 13
    ounce range.

    I'm still cooking for 2. Went out today and got my flu shot, stopped at
    ReStore for a look around and then over to our favorite gyro place for
    take out. I got their Wednesday chicken special--gyro, drink and then
    subbed a pasta salad for the fries. Ate the gyro for lunch, will have
    the pasta salad for supper since Steve is out tonight.

    8<---- AGAIN ----->8

    Sounds like they were thinking cage free but just didn't remember the proper term.

    We never kept any, just raised cats & dogs. (G)

    We had cats and dogs. And a 3-legged raccoon. My grandfather trapped
    the raccoon in the sweet corn patch. It was strange, he had railed
    over "those 'coons stealiong his my corn" for so long then going to
    the corn to bring fresh sweet corn back for Cappy to munch on.

    I asked him about it and he said "That was stealing. This is giving."
    Bv)=

    Now that's funny--to quote a former member of the echo.

    My friens Les' send-off (funeral) is today. I made this for the after funeral meal at Temple Israel. But then I realised that I had meat and dairy in the same dish do it wasn't kosher. Dennis and I will eat well
    for a couple of days.

    Title: Classic, Savory Cottage Pie
    Categories: Beef, Potatoes, Vegetables, Wine, Herbs
    Yield: 8 servings

    OOPS! I know you will enjoy it but you will be thinking about Les as
    you eat it.

    True, that. And Janis Kracht who also passed recently (per Shawm's
    e-mail)

    I saw the notice also. She wasn't on the echo too much in the last few
    years but will miss her. It was at the first picnic she hosted (2008?)
    that we first tried durian.



    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Oct 25 06:07:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    We had cats and dogs. And a 3-legged raccoon. My grandfather trapped
    the raccoon in the sweet corn patch. It was strange, he had railed
    over "those 'coons stealiong his my corn" for so long then going to
    the corn to bring fresh sweet corn back for Cappy to munch on.

    I asked him about it and he said "That was stealing. This is giving."
    Bv)=

    Now that's funny--to quote a former member of the echo.

    Ahhhh, yes. Burton Ford. Remember him fondly.

    My friens Les' send-off (funeral) is today. I made this for the after funeral meal at Temple Israel. But then I realised that I had meat and dairy in the same dish do it wasn't kosher. Dennis and I will eat well
    for a couple of days.

    Title: Classic, Savory Cottage Pie
    Categories: Beef, Potatoes, Vegetables, Wine, Herbs
    Yield: 8 servings

    OOPS! I know you will enjoy it but you will be thinking about Les as
    you eat it.

    True, that. And Janis Kracht who also passed recently (per Shawm's
    e-mail)

    I saw the notice also. She wasn't on the echo too much in the last few years but will miss her. It was at the first picnic she hosted (2008?) that we first tried durian.

    My first (and only) go with durian. It was nice once I got past the
    diaper pail odor. Apparently it is an squired taste.

    Making this for the weekend (and beyond). For the noodles I'll use my grandmother's three ingredient (egg, flour, salt) egg noodle/dumpling
    recipe which I've posted here preciously.

    I went to Humphrey's to get a pound of bacon-sizzler patties and a chuck
    roast jumped into my trolley. It's not a "chuck eye" but I'll make do.

    Bv)=

    I'll freeze all but the noodles after the first go. Should be another
    meal (with freshlu made noodles) for mw and Dennis.

    MMMMM---- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Slow-Cooker Beef Stroganoff
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Pasta, Dairy, Herbs
    Yield: 7 servings

    1 tb Extra-virgin olive oil
    3 1/2 lb Chuck-eye roast; trimmed,
    - cut in 2" pieces
    Salt & fresh ground pepper
    1 md (8 oz) onion; fine chopped
    3 cl Garlic; minced
    1 c Homemade beef stock
    1/2 oz Dried porcini mushrooms; rinsed
    1 tb Worcestershire sauce
    1 tb Prepared grainy mustard
    1 ts sherry or red wine vinegar
    1/3 c Dry sherry or cider vineger
    - mixed w/water (50/50)
    2 Bay leaves
    1 1/2 tb A-P flour
    1/2 c Sour cream
    12 oz Dried egg noodles *
    1 1/2 tb Minced parsley
    1/2 Recipe E-Z roasted mushrooms
    - opt

    * Or use fresh home made egg noodles. - UDD

    Blot meat dry with paper towels and season meat
    generously with salt and pepper. In a large skillet,
    heat oil over high heat until just smoking. Add half of
    the meat and cook until browned all over, flipping
    occasionally, 6 to 8 minutes. Transfer seared meat and
    remaining unseared eat to a slow cooker and stir in
    onion, garlic, broth, porcini mushrooms, Worcestershire,
    mustard, vinegar, sherry, bay leaves, 1/2 teaspoon salt,
    and 1/2 teaspoon pepper until well combined . Cover and
    cook on low until meat if fall-apart-tender, 8 to 10
    hours.

    Once meat is cooked, use a slotted spoon to transfer to
    a bowl. Use 2 forks to shred meat into chunks, removing
    and discarding any fatty parts. Season to taste with
    salt and pepper if needed. Cover to keep warm.

    Pour the remaining liquid in the slow cooker into a
    medium saucepan over medium-high heat and bring to a
    simmer. Slowly whisk in flour, taking care there are no
    lumps. Whisk in sour cream and simmer until the sauce
    thickens, 3 to 4 minutes. Season to taste with salt and
    pepper.

    In a large sauce pot, bring water to a boil over high
    heat. Add noodles and cook until tender according to
    package directions. Drain and divide into individual
    serving bowls. Top with meat and spoon finished sauce on
    top. Garnish with parsley and serve.

    MAKE-AHEAD AND STORAGE: The shredded meat and prepared
    sauce can be refrigerated together in an airtight
    container for up to 5 days.

    By Jennifer Olvera

    Makes: 6 to 8 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.seriouseats.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Oct 25 20:12:23 2024
    Hi Dave,

    We had cats and dogs. And a 3-legged raccoon. My grandfather trapped
    the raccoon in the sweet corn patch. It was strange, he had railed
    over "those 'coons stealiong his my corn" for so long then going to
    the corn to bring fresh sweet corn back for Cappy to munch on.

    I asked him about it and he said "That was stealing. This is giving."
    Bv)=

    Now that's funny--to quote a former member of the echo.

    Ahhhh, yes. Burton Ford. Remember him fondly.

    Yes, it was always fun to get the resident Eat's opinion of different
    foods.


    My friens Les' send-off (funeral) is today. I made this for the after funeral meal at Temple Israel. But then I realised that I had meat and dairy in the same dish do it wasn't kosher. Dennis and I will eat well
    for a couple of days.

    Title: Classic, Savory Cottage Pie
    Categories: Beef, Potatoes, Vegetables, Wine, Herbs
    Yield: 8 servings

    OOPS! I know you will enjoy it but you will be thinking about Les as
    you eat it.

    True, that. And Janis Kracht who also passed recently (per Shawm's
    e-mail)

    I saw the notice also. She wasn't on the echo too much in the last few years but will miss her. It was at the first picnic she hosted (2008?) that we first tried durian.

    My first (and only) go with durian. It was nice once I got past the
    diaper pail odor. Apparently it is an squired taste.

    It was our only experience with fresh durian. Steve took some, then made
    this big speech about trying it before he actually did. Janis snapped a
    picture of him pontificating; about a year later we were visiting and I
    saw the picture in her computer room.


    Making this for the weekend (and beyond). For the noodles I'll use my grandmother's three ingredient (egg, flour, salt) egg noodle/dumpling recipe which I've posted here preciously.

    I went to Humphrey's to get a pound of bacon-sizzler patties and a
    chuck roast jumped into my trolley. It's not a "chuck eye" but I'll
    make do.

    I'll probably get a chuck roast or two next time we do a big shopping
    trip, turn one into sauerbraten.


    I'll freeze all but the noodles after the first go. Should be another
    meal (with freshlu made noodles) for mw and Dennis.


    Title: Slow-Cooker Beef Stroganoff
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Pasta, Dairy, Herbs
    Yield: 7 servings


    Looks good; I'd be drooling but am too full from supper to do so. (G)


    ... My only exercise is jogging my memory and wrestling with my conscience.

    Not jumping to conclusions? (G)

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Oct 27 05:51:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    My first (and only) go with durian. It was nice once I got past the
    diaper pail odor. Apparently it is an squired taste.

    It was our only experience with fresh durian. Steve took some, then
    made this big speech about trying it before he actually did. Janis
    snapped a picture of him pontificating; about a year later we were visiting and I saw the picture in her computer room.

    Making this for the weekend (and beyond). For the noodles I'll use my grandmother's three ingredient (egg, flour, salt) egg noodle/dumpling recipe which I've posted here preciously.

    I went to Humphrey's to get a pound of bacon-sizzler patties and a
    chuck roast jumped into my trolley. It's not a "chuck eye" but I'll
    make do.

    I'll probably get a chuck roast or two next time we do a big shopping trip, turn one into sauerbraten.

    Never done chuck as sauerbraten. I use rump or round since it cooks long
    enough to tenderise even the toughest cuts. The venison sauerbraten I did
    for the echo picnic in Y2K was a nice chunk of rump that my friend Bill Kusturin gave me.

    I'll freeze all but the noodles after the first go. Should be another
    meal (with freshlu made noodles) for mw and Dennis.


    Title: Slow-Cooker Beef Stroganoff
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Pasta, Dairy, Herbs
    Yield: 7 servings


    Looks good; I'd be drooling but am too full from supper to do so. (G)

    ... My only exercise is jogging my memory and wrestling with my conscience.

    Not jumping to conclusions? (G)

    Not any more - I'm close enough to my own conclusion that I'm afraid I'd
    sprain something. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dirty Dave's Sauerbraten Marinade
    Categories: Marinades, Rubs, Herbs
    Yield: 1 Recipe

    MMMMM----------------------------RUB---------------------------------
    2 ts Salt
    1 ts Ground ginger

    MMMMM--------------------------MARINADE-------------------------------
    2 1/2 c Water
    2 c Cider or red wine vinegar
    1/3 c Sugar
    2 md Onions; peeled, sliced,
    - divided
    2 tb Mixed pickling spice;
    - divided
    1 ts Whole peppercorns; divided
    8 Whole cloves; divided
    2 Turkish bay leaves; divided
    2 tb Oil

    In a small bowl, combine salt and ginger; rub over meat.

    Place in a deep glass bowl. In a large bowl, combine the
    water, vinegar and sugar. Pour half of marinade into a
    large saucepan; add half of the onions, pickling spices,
    peppercorns, cloves and bay leaves. Bring to a boil. Pour
    over roast; turn to coat. Cover and refrigerate for 2 - 4
    days, turning twice a day.

    To the remaining marinade, add the remaining onions,
    pickling spices, peppercorns, cloves and bay leaves. Cover
    and refrigerate.

    TO COOK: Drain and discard marinade from meat; pat dry.
    Brown roast in oil on all sides. Place in a Dutch oven or
    crock-pot. Put one cup of reserved marinade with all of
    the onions and seasonings into a small sauce pan and bring
    to a boil. Pour over meat (cover and refrigerate balance
    of marinade). If using the Dutch oven cook at a simmer for
    3 hours or until the meat is tender. If using a crock-pot
    put the meat into the crock-pot and set to low, cook until
    meat is tender.

    TO MAKE GRAVY: Strain cooking juices, discarding onions
    and seasonings. Add enough reserved marinade to the
    cooking juices to measure 3 cups. Pour into a large
    saucepan; bring to a boil. Reduce heat and simmer until
    gravy is thickened. Slice roast and serve with gravy.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Oct 27 19:52:20 2024
    Hi Dave,

    I went to Humphrey's to get a pound of bacon-sizzler patties and a
    chuck roast jumped into my trolley. It's not a "chuck eye" but I'll
    make do.

    I'll probably get a chuck roast or two next time we do a big shopping trip, turn one into sauerbraten.

    Never done chuck as sauerbraten. I use rump or round since it cooks
    long enough to tenderise even the toughest cuts. The venison
    sauerbraten I did for the echo picnic in Y2K was a nice chunk of rump
    that my friend Bill Kusturin gave me.

    That's what I call the cut my mom always cooked, but not as sauerbraten.
    Could be it's a different cut that I actually use but don't know for
    sure, haven't looked at the beef 'fridge cases lately. (G)


    I'll freeze all but the noodles after the first go. Should be another
    meal (with freshlu made noodles) for mw and Dennis.


    Title: Slow-Cooker Beef Stroganoff
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Pasta, Dairy, Herbs
    Yield: 7 servings


    Looks good; I'd be drooling but am too full from supper to do so. (G)

    ... My only exercise is jogging my memory and wrestling with my conscience.

    Not jumping to conclusions? (G)

    Not any more - I'm close enough to my own conclusion that I'm afraid
    I'd sprain something. Bv)=

    Understandable.


    Title: Dirty Dave's Sauerbraten Marinade
    Categories: Marinades, Rubs, Herbs
    Yield: 1 Recipe

    MMMMM----------------------------RUB---------------------------------
    2 ts Salt
    1 ts Ground ginger

    MMMMM--------------------------MARINADE-------------------------------
    2 1/2 c Water
    2 c Cider or red wine vinegar
    1/3 c Sugar
    2 md Onions; peeled, sliced,
    - divided
    2 tb Mixed pickling spice;
    - divided
    1 ts Whole peppercorns; divided
    8 Whole cloves; divided
    2 Turkish bay leaves; divided
    2 tb Oil

    I'll use juniper berries and whole allspice in addition to the bay, peppercorns, cloves, vinegar and onion. Gravy is made with some of the
    marinade and gingersnaps.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Oct 29 05:08:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I went to Humphrey's to get a pound of bacon-sizzler patties and a
    chuck roast jumped into my trolley. It's not a "chuck eye" but I'll
    make do.

    I'll probably get a chuck roast or two next time we do a big shopping trip, turn one into sauerbraten.

    Never done chuck as sauerbraten. I use rump or round since it cooks
    long enough to tenderise even the toughest cuts. The venison
    sauerbraten I did for the echo picnic in Y2K was a nice chunk of rump
    that my friend Bill Kusturin gave me.

    That's what I call the cut my mom always cooked, but not as
    sauerbraten. Could be it's a different cut that I actually use but
    don't know for sure, haven't looked at the beef 'fridge cases lately.
    (G)

    A rump roast is a cut of beef from the top of the back end of a cow, as
    far back as you can go before reaching the tail. The entire rump and top
    of the back leg is called the round, but only the top is rump. Whole, it averages 15 pounds, but the entire rump is most often cut into three or
    four roasts that are 3 to 4 pounds each. Rump roast comes from a muscle
    group that gets a lot of exercise; therefore, it has little fat and is
    extra lean. It will be tough unless you cook it correctly.

    8<----- CUT ----->8

    Title: Dirty Dave's Sauerbraten Marinade
    Categories: Marinades, Rubs, Herbs
    Yield: 1 Recipe

    I'll use juniper berries and whole allspice in addition to the bay, peppercorns, cloves, vinegar and onion. Gravy is made with some of
    the marinade and gingersnaps.

    I'm not a fan of juniper berries. Never have been. I usually just add
    a thickener to the pan juices for gravy.

    MMMMM---- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Mom's Pot Roast
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Herbs, Pasta
    Yield: 5 servings

    3 lb Rump roast
    Salt & fresh ground pepper
    3 tb Olive oil
    2 Ribs celery; chopped
    1 Carrot; chopped
    1 Onion; chopped
    4 cl Garlic; minced
    1 c Red wine or cranberry juice
    28 oz Can crushed tomatoes
    1 c Water
    2 Bay leaves
    1 lb Dry pasta shells

    Recipe courtesy of Michael Symon

    Set the oven @ 350oF/175oC.

    Season the meat with salt & pepper. Heat the oil in a
    large Dutch oven over high heat. Sear the meat all over,
    about 2 minutes per each side.

    Move the meat to the side (or remove it from the pot
    altogether if necessary), add the celery, carrot and
    onion and brown the vegetables, stirring occasionally,
    about 3 minutes.

    Add the garlic and cook for a minute or 2 longer. Add
    the wine to deglaze the pot, scraping up the browned
    bits on the bottom. Add the tomatoes, water and bay
    leaves (and the meat if you removed it). Bring the
    liquid to a simmer and taste for seasoning. Add more
    salt if necessary. Cover the pot and bake, basting the
    meat occasionally, until tender, about 3 hours.

    About 20 minutes before the meat is tender, bring a pot
    of water to a boil and salt liberally. Add the shells,
    give it a stir and cook until al dente according to the
    package instructions. Drain the pasta.

    To serve, you can pull the meat apart with a couple of
    forks right in the pot at the table. Serve with the
    pasta, plenty of sauce and vegetables, tossing them all
    together.

    Yield: 4 to 6 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.foodnetwork.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Oct 29 14:17:05 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Never done chuck as sauerbraten. I use rump or round since it cooks
    long enough to tenderise even the toughest cuts. The venison
    sauerbraten I did for the echo picnic in Y2K was a nice chunk of rump
    that my friend Bill Kusturin gave me.

    That's what I call the cut my mom always cooked, but not as
    sauerbraten. Could be it's a different cut that I actually use but
    don't know for sure, haven't looked at the beef 'fridge cases lately.
    (G)

    A rump roast is a cut of beef from the top of the back end of a cow,
    as far back as you can go before reaching the tail. The entire rump
    and top of the back leg is called the round, but only the top is rump. Whole, it averages 15 pounds, but the entire rump is most often cut
    into three or four roasts that are 3 to 4 pounds each. Rump roast
    comes from a muscle group that gets a lot of exercise; therefore, it
    has little fat and is
    extra lean. It will be tough unless you cook it correctly.

    OK, mom did a lot of pot roasts as well as I guess you'ld call it
    braising (brown both sides, then add a bit of water, turn the heat down
    and let cook for a couple of hours). Beef was the main Sunday dinner for
    my family, then we'd see it again at least once, maybe twice more during
    the week.

    8<----- CUT ----->8

    Title: Dirty Dave's Sauerbraten Marinade
    Categories: Marinades, Rubs, Herbs
    Yield: 1 Recipe

    I'll use juniper berries and whole allspice in addition to the bay, peppercorns, cloves, vinegar and onion. Gravy is made with some of
    the marinade and gingersnaps.

    I'm not a fan of juniper berries. Never have been. I usually just add
    a thickener to the pan juices for gravy.

    Your taste, my taste. I don't notice any specific taste (juniper,
    cloves, etc) in my marinade/gravy but do like the overall flavor of the mixture.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Oct 31 10:43:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    A rump roast is a cut of beef from the top of the back end of a cow,
    as far back as you can go before reaching the tail. The entire rump
    and top of the back leg is called the round, but only the top is rump. Whole, it averages 15 pounds, but the entire rump is most often cut
    into three or four roasts that are 3 to 4 pounds each. Rump roast
    comes from a muscle group that gets a lot of exercise; therefore, it
    has little fat and is extra lean. It will be tough unless you cook
    it correctly.

    OK, mom did a lot of pot roasts as well as I guess you'ld call it
    braising (brown both sides, then add a bit of water, turn the heat down and let cook for a couple of hours). Beef was the main Sunday dinner
    for my family, then we'd see it again at least once, maybe twice more during the week.

    Waste not, want not. The leftover server's marching song. Bv)=

    8<----- CUT ----->8

    Title: Dirty Dave's Sauerbraten Marinade
    Categories: Marinades, Rubs, Herbs
    Yield: 1 Recipe

    I'll use juniper berries and whole allspice in addition to the bay, peppercorns, cloves, vinegar and onion. Gravy is made with some of
    the marinade and gingersnaps.

    I'm not a fan of juniper berries. Never have been. I usually just add
    a thickener to the pan juices for gravy.

    Your taste, my taste. I don't notice any specific taste (juniper,
    cloves, etc) in my marinade/gravy but do like the overall flavor of the mixture.

    Juniper, also used as a flavorant for gin, has always tasted to me like
    the old-tyme Rose Brillantine hair grease smelled. I know that taste and
    smell are different senses but for some reason the taste triggers an old
    memory of an uncle who greased his hair with the hair tonic and was a
    right barstid of a meanie in the bargain.

    Here's a "tough cut" recipe without a juniper berry in sight. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Roy Rogers Regular Roast Beef Sandwich
    Categories: Five, Breads, Sauces, Beef
    Yield: 1 Serving

    3 1/4 oz Beef eye round; USDA Choice
    2 oz Kaiser roll
    2 tb Beef broth; or consomme
    1 tb Open Pit regular bbq sauce
    1 tb Creamy horseradish sauce

    Preheat oven to 225├╕F/105├╕C

    Insert an oven safe remote thermometer into the center of
    the roast and program the thermometer to alert @ 115├╕F/46├╕C
    Place the roast on a rack over a foil lined baking pan.
    Slow roast in the oven uncovered until the thermometer
    alerts. Turn the temperature of the oven down to 175├╕F/80├╕C
    and continue roasting. The idea is that this tough cut of
    meat will become most tender if slow roasted with an
    internal temp under 122├╕F/50├╕C as long as possible.

    Change the alert temperature of the thermometer without
    opening the oven to 130├╕F/55├╕C When the alert is reached
    remove the roast from the oven and let rest inside an
    unsealed gallon sized ziploc baggie. This will capture the
    juices while resting. The roast will be pink throughout.
    This is how it should look at this point.

    When the roast is room temperature, seal the baggie and
    place in the refrigerator over night. The cold temperature
    will help enable thin slicing.

    Reserving the juices in the ZipLoc baggie, slice 3.2 oz of
    beef for each sandwich to be made. Heat the beef broth or
    consomme in a saucepan until simmering and add in the
    reserved juices. When the sauce is simmering place the cut
    beef on a skimmer and dunk into the hot broth for 30 to 45
    seconds. This will finish cook the beef, add the flavor of
    Roy's sandwiches without toughening the meat. Anything
    over a minute will toughen the meat. A Roy's employee
    acknowledged this is how they finished the beef.

    Place the meat directly from the broth on an untoasted bun
    bottom. Spoon a tablespoon of broth onto the top bun. Add
    barbecue sauce and horsey sauce.

    By Van Scoy on March 18, 2010

    From: http://www.food.com

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